Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"True and I’d also say that through absolutely no fault of Lenagan we let the 2014 and 2015 Grand Finals slip through our fingers, when we should’ve won both and you could say much the same about 2020. In 2012 it was unfathomable that we didn’t get a trophy on the board also (aside from the LLS). We won 13 trophies under his ownership and I think he’ll be slightly disappointed that it wasn’t around the 16/17 mark.
To say Saints and Leeds had much more success than us in that time is clearly wrong. It feels like we probably shouid be a couple of trophies clear of the pair of them in that time but that was down to the players/coaches on those nights. What Lenagan has done is right us in a fantastic position to make sure that in this next 10-15 years we are more successful than any other team.'"
You replied earlier and eerily made some of the points I would have made
In this reply your thinking is exactly the same as mine again mentioning the GF's we missed out on through other issues, the 2012 season and missing out in semis in both despite playing some of the best rugby we've seen in 25 years and as you say, and it links to something I said on the Wigan way podcast before the GF this year, we've left 2/3/4 opportunities for GFs out there and not grabbed em in the past when we probably should have, and this years GF I didn't make any other prediction other than "We just need to win". More than anything to just tally up the wins and losses a bit more evenly as I think we deserved.
It must be hard for those that pinned their blame/anger/impatience/opinions IMO in no particular order Lenegan, Rads, Wane, jobs for the boys (i mentioned Peet/lockers and Tommy earlier but ill add Powell amongst others as well) to have to scramble round to justify their previous stance only to see those people and decisions bounce back and go on to prove what great people/administrators/coaches/players etc they have been and some still have a lot to give Wigan and will contribute significantly to future trophies I have no doubt.
To claim that something in the future that hasn't even happened yet i.e a dynasty, and signings for 4 years of Field for example are an example of us changing somehow in the last 2 months or so after Leneghan left, whilst all the rest of the jobs for the boys people are still here, and show no acknowledgement that the signing has all the hallmarks of how well those players signing proves they respect the culture, the club that Lenegham and others created and would possibly not have happened without their management is incredulous and ill treat those comments the way they deserve to be treated, by throwing them in the proverbial bin.