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| Quote: Itchy Arsenal "The problem with Isa or KPP on the bench would mean only 2 props on the bench assuming we go with our customary hooker on the bench. With only Havard and Ellis capable of long minutes we would end up playing Isa or KPP at prop at some point. Just not good enough.
I’ve said for sometime that our squad is too thin and too inexperienced. We started the season with no experienced 6 and virtually zero cover in an already lightweight backrow. I’m not a Bateman fan so even if he had remained our backrow would have been too lightweight.
I’ve not totally written us off but I’d be pretty surprised if any team that has won the GF had 40+ points posted against them twice halfway through the season. Hopefully we can sneak a win next week against Wire and with a bit of luck we could get another CC final.
Peet has his work cut out to get us a top 6 place at the end of the season with Leyth, HKR and Salford being our main challengers for the 3 remaining places on the assumption that Saints, Catalan and Wire will fill the top 3.
Next season for me we need 2 experienced props, 2 experienced backrow forwards and a HB who has a decent kicking game and ideally,can also kick goals. I suspect we could sign 3 nrl players as part of this assuming Mago, Cust and Miski depart leaving 2 from SL which is a very small pool of very average talent. A very difficult assignment for KR and IL to achieve and it may take 2 years to achieve this.
It will be very interesting to see how recruiting goes over the next few months.'"
I'm not entirely sure why you would object to a backrower on the bench with a prop rotation of Havard, Ellis, Cooper and Byrne? It's something we have traditionally done with a full compliment of first choice front rowers and someone who can "change a game" from the bench is usually regarded as a good thing. Why would we need to play Isa at prop? I don't understand. That 4 could comfortably cover the full 80 minutes between them without the need for anyone to do long minutes.
The rest I agree with.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
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| We as a club cannot scout props, I reckon someone is looking at highlights reels and basing the props on them alone or they’re after another Feka, or an intimidating hard knock to act hard all game or something rather than a workhorse. I do think we have got lucky with Ellis rather than good scouting because his stats were terrible in the NRL, they’ve improved here because I think someone like Ellis will want to improve their game whereas someone like Mago goes through the motions and does whatever little he can get away with.
Depending on what’s happening with Coopers injury and next season whether he will be here or not should prompt the powers that be to take action. So if he isn’t here next year get him off the books, get rid of Mago asap on loan for the rest of the season and bring in a short term replacement from the NRL.
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| the quote isn't working this morning, but this
'I can't understand why we seem obsessed with project or second string NRL players, other clubs bring in experienced NRL players'
its interesting as there's a lot of minds on our board, who cite wigan getting joy out of project nrl players, rather than whatever we sign and should follow your recruitment model.
it does seem that on both sides, the grass is always greener.
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| cant believe nobody is discussing Singleton, - he's absolute gash
seems like Mago gets all the stick, which he deserves, just give Singleton his fair share too....
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| Completely agree on Singleton, brings absolutely nothing. Hopefully both him and Mago are off at the end of the season and we are bringing in 2 props that actually have size that can push this team forward. I am disappointed with Byrne too this season, he seems way off it compared to last year. Does anyone know if he's carrying an injury maybe?
We're crying out for a second rower too. Say what you want about Bateman, but he always made metres and we are missing that aspect of his game so much.
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| manual quote
"the quote isn't working this morning, but this
'I can't understand why we seem obsessed with project or second string NRL players, other clubs bring in experienced NRL players'
its interesting as there's a lot of minds on our board, who cite wigan getting joy out of project nrl players, rather than whatever we sign and should follow your recruitment model.
it does seem that on both sides, the grass is always greener. "
that initial line was mine - and I referring specially to forwards (props) we have done ok with backs, well mostly, but our recruitment of forwards (as cheery.pie illustrated in the post after mine) has been poor - for several years we have been deperate for an experienced battle hardened prop and not project/second string props who almost invariably have been disappointing. Not so much grass being greener but more like being on the wrong lawn altogether!
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