What the hell is it with 12 men? We just seem to go to pieces and I agree with Cruncher, if that first Ryan Hall effort was a try then I'm a Dutch Man and I'm not because I was born in Newtown!

Sky seems to go into a game with a pre-determined narrative and will stick with it regardless of what goes on on the pitch.

We've seen for example, Leeds get out played in many games yet they find a way to win right at the death and the story is very different to Wigan, where we seem criticised for not doing better.

The narrative last night was how great HKR are doing and they deserved to win.

That's true, but it's just confirmation bias, isn't it? You see it in all sports and with all commentators. They start the game with a script already written in their heads, and look for evidence to support it. Even the likes of Cooper Cronk, who has forgotten more about rugby league than most of us know, is not immune.

Smithies no further action "used forearm to keep opponent down" "didn't drop" or words to that effect

There was nothing in that - just a silly second push on the floor.

Ethan Ryan broke his jaw in that game,
Wigan have sent him a get well card and a hamper of sorts.
Well done Wigan!