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Quote: NickyKiss "It’s been up and down but I like Wardle. He’s a ‘moments’ player, whereas King is an absolute grafter. They’re polar opposites really but I like the pair of them. I do think King has been the more valuable of the two so far and you can tell he’s on edge and wants a full time deal. I agree that Wardle needs to up his workrate but he’s settling in and he will get better. He’s an upgrade on Bibby or Isa at the very least.'"


What happened to King? At Wire he could jump and contest a high ball....has Peet given him lead boots?

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Quote: FearTheVee "He's going great for us. I think he's a player that really needs to be in a highly professional set up to get the best out of him and he has that right now.

I was against his signing after seeing him balloon at Leeds but he's been a revelation really and given the injury issues with Percy and Hoppa last year (and this!) we would have been in a tough spot without him.'"


Was Leeds not a highly professional setup? Interested to know where theirs and Saints setups differ.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "Was Leeds not a highly professional setup? Interested to know where theirs and Saints setups differ.'"


I would say general standards and S & C. Big reasons why we have won 4 in a row.

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He’s put a bit of timber back on looking at him this season and niggly injuries have crept in across the squad this past 12 months.

Have there been changes in personnel in that S and C department?

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Quote: NickyKiss "He’s put a bit of timber back on looking at him this season and niggly injuries have crept in across the squad this past 12 months.

Have there been changes in personnel in that S and C department?'"


No. I think its just a culmination of ageing players and players that have played a lot of rugby. Percival and Walmsley for example. Makinson missed a few last season too. Batchelor was more or less an ever present the past few seasons bar his ankle injury the week before the WCC. Dodd was a freak type of injury.

Hopoate has been constantly injured. The Tongan medical staff said that they'd sort him during the WC and he got injured with them so not sure Saints can be entirely blamed for him.

We've probably had more bans than injuries icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: nathan_rugby "Was Leeds not a highly professional setup? Interested to know where theirs and Saints setups differ.'"


i'd start with they lost their golden generation of peacock, burrow, sinfield, mcguire, JJB etc and that was the start of it

Brian McDermott left, replaced by Furner (i think) who was quickly replaced by Agar (along with a spell of Sinfield in some form of capacity), and now Smith

whether the setup was as professional or not, no doubt massive changes in personnel after having those guys around for seemingly umpteen years, and a steady coach who was there for about 8-9 years i think and i am pretty sure you can see that in the results on the pitch too, as they have been dire at times over the last few seasons.

Saints, however have changed coaches successfully after the Cunningham era, and that has reaped rewards for them. They have had a core of players there for a considerable number of years, Lomax, Makinson, Roby, Walmsley, LMS etc who have set the standards and culture, whereas Leeds lost virtually all of that.
Saints have seemingly recruited well, especially from an overseas perspective and that has complimented the home grown players that have come through too. The likes of Coote, Paasi, Sironen, Naiqama, Peyroux, Barba have all worked in the Saints system and fit in well.

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