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I thought we'd lose today, but I expected a better performance than that. Rovers were far more enthusiastic in every aspect and it showed.

Our front row was very ineffective. Cooper was decent but not great by his standards and Singleton was good for his standards (which is just about decent) but there wasn't much from Havard, Byrne or Ellis. Farrell was the quietest I've ever seen him. I'm a little concerned that he might actually prove to be human and maybe have a quiet year and that would be real bad news for us because we're noticeably weaker without him at his best.

Our right edge was pretty shocking. It's a concern but worth remembering that King is new to the side, Cust was defending on the left edge last year and KPP hasn't had as much experience in the back row as the man he's replaced. At least KPP was a threat from kicks.

We certainly tried to play without earning the right to as Matt Peet said. There wasn't enough work down the middle and we started snatching at opportunities and putting in wayward passes when a bit more composure and willingness to do the tough stuff could have created some easier openings.

There's a lot of improvement that can be gained from that team, but I'm a little concerned about the fact we've gone into this season with a weaker pack than last year and are seemingly perfectly happy with that. Maybe it is a bit knee jerk, but you look at Paasi at Saints, how well Vaughan and Kasiano did for Wire on Thursday and then look at Ellis being very much 5th choice prop, Isa, Mago and Miski not even in the team and you've got to wonder what we're doing with our recruitment and use of the quota spots.

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Quote: Stu M "As an outsider why would you not utilise your back 3 in terms of yardage? Gets you on the front foot and with a quick play the ball, gaps appear and the likes of Field and French would take advantage.

Look at Saints with Makinson and Percival. They are hardly the biggest of backs but they run strong. Even Grace who was lightweight would make good yards.

Marshall has made big improvements in this area IMO to be fair'"


Field was 2nd to Ash Handley in meters made last season, Marshall and Farrell were in the top twenty. and French missed quite a few games at the beginning of the season.

A major problem last week was the penalties conceded (6) most unlike Wigan who were the most disciplined club last year.

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Watched the Salford game last night and noticed that most of there tries came on there left edge with Abdull's kicking.

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Quote: Ashton Bears "Watched the Salford game last night and noticed that most of there tries came on there left edge with Abdull's kicking.'"


On the basis of the fist 2 games their left edge is very impressive. They were creating opportunities and running the play that caught us out very effectively last night even with a change in personnel.

I was expecting KR to struggle this year but they look like realistic contenders for s top 6 finish.

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Quote: Ashton Bears "Watched the Salford game last night and noticed that most of there tries came on there left edge with Abdull's kicking.'"


All the tries you conceded were on our left edge

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Just watching the highlights of Salford/HKR now. It's very much the Jordan Abdul Show.

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