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American Football pro teams seem to be averaging around 70,000, which apparently represents 98% of seats sold.
My mate in Dallas has been on the waiting list for a Cowboys season ticket since 1989.
College football is massive too, I saw Tennessee v Ole Miss a few years ago as part of an 80,000 crowd.
When I lived in Tennessee the local high school football team drew 10,000 on a Friday night. The town population was 20,000. Lots of people were involved besides players, cheerleaders, a big band, catering, stewarding, security, admin and so on.
They are light years ahead in organisation, and Football there has a massive grass roots base.
But I was born in Wigan and I prefer to watch Rugby League

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Quote: TonyM19 "This is the first season since 2020 that we have had a season ticket (we had one for at least 10 years before the pandemic). We knew that we would miss some games this season but we thought that we could fall back on the system where you can swap tickets for game you miss for ones later in the season to make it worth our while. Together with letting pour kids use them for some games it was a decent saving. We have done ticket swaps in the past, but its not available any more. Minor gripe I know, but it just makes it not cost effective for us to have the season tickets from now on. Just flagging it up if anybody else was thinking of swapping tickets.'"


Sorry could you clarify this? What do you mean by swapping tickets?

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If you couldn't make a game, you could swap your tickets to a different game later in the season. We used to do it regularly. Meant that we could bring friends/family to the game we could make. You can't do it now. No big deal, but it was a factor in us deciding top get season tix from a price per game point of view

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Quote: TonyM19 "If you couldn't make a game, you could swap your tickets to a different game later in the season. We used to do it regularly. Meant that we could bring friends/family to the game we could make. You can't do it now. No big deal, but it was a factor in us deciding top get season tix from a price per game point of view'"


So my understanding is that if you cant make it to a game (holiday,illness,cant be d etc) you could give the ticket to anyone later on to get in free but you could also use your ticket aswell,that doesnt make commercial sense as it isnt the clubs fault that you are missing a game but the club gets stung for £28 upwards.

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Quote: Jason65 "So my understanding is that if you cant make it to a game (holiday,illness,cant be d etc) you could give the ticket to anyone later on to get in free but you could also use your ticket aswell,that doesnt make commercial sense as it isnt the clubs fault that you are missing a game but the club gets stung for £28 upwards.'"


Commercial risk that probably didn't work so is no longer available.

We now have memberships where people can pick and choose.

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Quote: Jason65 "So my understanding is that if you cant make it to a game (holiday,illness,cant be d etc) you could give the ticket to anyone later on to get in free but you could also use your ticket aswell,that doesnt make commercial sense as it isnt the clubs fault that you are missing a game but the club gets stung for £28 upwards.'"


Your understanding is wrong. You couldn't let someone else use your ticket. It was cancelled for the game you couldn't make and you got extra tickets for a different game. It's no big deal. I just thought you could still do it. The person I spoke to at the ticket office said they stopped it last year. It must have been a real sphere ache to manage so it's understandable that they've stopped it. It just tips the value of getting a season ticket over the edge for us and it will be a membership net season

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