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Quote: Jukesays "So how come we have any one of the numerous threads relating to the lack of Fans at a game every time there's a final, semi final, low crowd, half empty stadium etc.?
And Season Ticket/Match day ticket sales at Rugby League clubs are proportionately a larger % of it's income than RU or Football for example. So it is More important to RL/Wigan that people come.
Do you think the TV people would pay as much if we got half the crowds we do now??? Or would they say "Look, you can't even get people to come and watch so why should we pay you more?". That's a particularly Dicey game to play.

I'm not going to have too much to say about other teams attendances etc. and 95% of what I read is about Wigan and their attendances.
But I will categorically tell you that Wigan themselves would Love another 2k per week watching the club and get averages up nearer the 13/14k mark rather than 11/12k and it would definitely NOT have a detrimental effect on the TV Deal, quite the opposite.
And most fans would Love having those 2k or more fans at the stadium rather that writing a million Posts on FB/Twitter/Forums etc. berating the club and the lower attendances.

End of the day Rogues has replied to Mr Frisk knowing full well that he/she isn't actually interested/has any intention of going to a game.
But the reply also needs to reverberate with other fans who read Social media etc. who purport to have more than a passing interest in the game and comment Thousands of times, but don't go to games in General.
It's simple
The more people go the better things will get
The less people go, whilst doing nothing other than whinge about one thing or another and influence others into not going the Worse things will get.'"


All undoubtedly true.

Mine was a slightly flippant comment as I've got foot in both camps. I'm pretty tired of the "I go to games and that's the only model" approach. I know loads of people who'd happily pay an NRL Kayo type model to stream games. Stuff like that isn't even entertained as crowds are the be all and end all.

I know it's very niche, but my old man had a very mild stroke a few years back. Sadly, one of the side effects was a massive deterioration in his eyesight. He no longer goes to games because of it, but he'll watch them when they are on TV. He'd 100% pay X amount PCM to live stream home and away games.

Look at us as a club and our annual enforced road trip - Wembley + 2 months of away games & magic on the horizon. Do you genuinely believe that's the best thing under the current climate?

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Advertising for the C4 fixtures after the initial publicity seems non-existent, I've only seen adverts for the England football game which follows ours when it could've been advertised as a great double header of sport.
Also Sky's advert for the great summer of sport, zero mention of Superleague icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Sadfish "I think first, we need to know the financials from the last 10 years of cup finals, without that, and without the knowledge of whether any money was made, we can't even begin to give 0.01p back to clubs.

If we find that the Cup Final has lost money for the past 10 years then it needs a big think about how we go forward, if it has indeed brough a profit in some difficult times, then sure we look at ticket pricing.

Either way your idea of tickets to clubs is great and used to happen under Barla, but what price will those tickets need to be to help the overall profits and allow a £4 rebate per ticket.

We just have no idea really on that bottom line.'"


The RFL were happy enough to give them away for free leading up to the final. Nothing in the terms and conditions to suggest they were for the NHS, it was only due to the negative online response was the offer pulled.

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Quote: MattyB "The RFL were happy enough to give them away for free leading up to the final. Nothing in the terms and conditions to suggest they were for the NHS, it was only due to the negative online response was the offer pulled.'"


I haven't mention the ticket offer for NHS or the coupon code.

There were 100s if not 1000s given to clubs the week before for free as far as I understand.

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Quote: Edinburgh Warrior "The RFL and whoever runs the World Cup have no idea and probably little interest on how to attract new fans .
Scotland in the World Cup is a case in point . The Scottish Borders is a RU hot bed so why not try to attract some of those .
Scotland v Fiji Kingston Park weekend
Great
Scotland v Italy Kingston Park weekend
Great
(The one game that might attract RU neutrals)
Scotland v Australia Coventry Friday night
You couldn't make it up it's mental and brainless . Even the 4 nations double header with Australia New Zealand England Scotland at Coventry a few years back could attract a decent crowd.
The Murrayfield Magic Weekend up here there was next to no local advertising. RFL fat cats have no idea whatsoever unless it comes to banking big salary cheques

EW'"
The RFL (and Super League to a large degree) have had a bunch of utter amateurs running the organisation, media & advertising for way too long. But now that IMG are in charge (ie a group that ostensibly know what they're doing), things can only get better & I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt (for the moment).
All the WC stuff will have been set out before IMG came in, so we can only hope that the don't completely squander any progress again like last time.

(although I disagree about the Coventry double header crowd last time - I was there. It was cold, zero atmosphere & the stadium was barely a quarter filled.Add to that it's in one the roughest areas of the world you could imagine. I poked my head out of the retail park gates & did an abrupt 'bout turn.
Why that was chosen again is beyond me. Even St James' park would be better for anyone needing their Irn Bru fix)

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Quote: CyberPieMan "The RFL (and Super League to a large degree) have had a bunch of utter amateurs running the organisation, media & advertising for way too long. But now that IMG are in charge (ie a group that ostensibly know what they're doing), things can only get better & I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt (for the moment).
All the WC stuff will have been set out before IMG came in, so we can only hope that the don't completely squander any progress again like last time.

(although I disagree about the Coventry double header crowd last time - I was there. It was cold, zero atmosphere & the stadium was barely a quarter filled.Add to that it's in one the roughest areas of the world you could imagine. I poked my head out of the retail park gates & did an abrupt 'bout turn.
Why that was chosen again is beyond me. Even St James' park would be better for anyone needing their Irn Bru fix)'"



From reading fans comments we all seem to have a consistent view of what’s wrong with the World Cup marketing and venue choices. I have filled in a number of questionnaire from the RL regarding the World Cup if others are doing the same then it appears that the RL had a plan a poor one and will carry on regardless.

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