FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Hardaker?
282 posts in 20 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner333
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Feb 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7914_1630875396.png
I'm 49, I've had a brain haemorrhage and a triple bypass and I could still go out and play a reasonable game of rugby union. But I wouldn't last 30 seconds in rugby league. Graham Lowe When Wigan do comebacks Grand Final 2013 Hull KR 2012 Bradford Bulls 2007:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7914.png



Just found this on the Examiner live about MPs interview...

Initial comments

Firstly, I want to put on record my best wishes to Zak. I told him this personally. There is a genuine desire from this club to see him be okay and to thrive as a person first and foremost. We all know he can play rugby but we just want him to have a happy and content life and whatever support he needs, the club and the game remain there for him.

The lads have all been involved in our culture and they wish him well as a friend first and foremost and that's how I feel, I hope he's alright.

How difficult it was to make the decision

It's difficult because there is a level of care for Zak and a want to see him come here and meet the standards. But as well, we know what we have to do for the best of the club, what culture we're trying to build and to have standards you have got to have accountability. Whether that's in team selection or people not remaining on the journey. Unfortunately, that's where it has got to.

Is the decision related to the initial incident that saw him dropped, or something different?

It's related, it's a consistent theme, we have standards and repeated breaches you could say, repeatedly not meeting what is expected. That's not what is expected from me specifically, I am a massive part of it, but it's the group, the club and what we want to stand for. Zak has been part of the conversations where we have said what we want to be about, as have all the team and staff. For that reason, it becomes an obvious decision even if it's not an easy one.

Was it a necessary decision to make a point about the importance of culture and stands?

It's no good saying all the right things and you never get your culture perfect, it's a life thing. Good things happen and bad things happen but what defines your culture is how you react to it. There are two sides to it - there is the care for Zak as an individual which I will continue to stress, but there's care for all the other individuals in the club, players, staff, fans and academy. We have to do the right thing for the majority.

How important is it to not let it be a distraction for the Salford game?

I can one million per cent guarantee it won't be a distraction.

How have the players reacted?

I don't know what they'll be like, I'm sure they will all touch base and reach out to Zak, as will I and encourage them to do so as a friend, but it's business as usual.

Do you feel let down?

No, not really, I don't take it personally. I'm disappointed for Zak because I know he did want to make it work here. But it's not to be.

Did Zak show he wanted to put it right?

Consistently. I think at heart Zak wants to make it work. But I think, as I said, there has to be accountability. People make mistakes, we've worked with Zak, as we do a lot of our players, people make mistakes, but like I say, we've got to see people learning from them mistakes and unfortunately that wasn't the case.

How long did it take to come to the decision to tear up his contract?

Well firstly, it wasn't just my decision. I had a feeling on how things should go. But there was collaboration throughout the club, proper processes, proper discussions and disciplinary process and in the end, multiple stakeholders, including the baord and the owners, it was considered the right thing to do for the club. I had my own opinion on what the right thing to do was from a team and performance point of view but there's more to it than that.

Did the leadership group have a role?

I'm not going to go into too much detail but the players are the culture and know what is expected. There's time we reflect on things that haven't or have gone well, we have regular meetings to discuss our progress. They weren't asked directly but some of them would be involved in conversations.

Will you look to recruit a replacement?

We always have one eye on that and there will be cap space, but that's not been mentioned at all yet. This was a standalone decision. In an ideal world, Zak would still be here, he's a quality player and a popular member of the group. Zak at his best adds a lot. That discussion might come up at some point but my mind is focused on this week's game.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15795
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16032_1698179828.jpg
"[color=#800080:2tf4iz4f]BOHICA[/color:2tf4iz4f]":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16032.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "Hardaker might have thrown homophobic abuse about, beat up a student, took banned substances, drove a car sozzled etc etc but the reason people don’t wish ill on the guy is because they’re decent people. The fact he might not be a great human being doesn’t make others snowflakes for hoping he’s ok.'"


You want to read some of the comments on redvee icon_surprised.gifops:

Particularly when they mention someone who committed suicide icon_rolleyes.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach29772
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10919_1322084665.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10919.jpg



Quote: [Gareth] ""You want to read some of the comments on redvee
It’s incredible. I can dislike teams, players, fan bases or whatever on a sporting level and I can throw some banter around on places like this but when all is said and done a player could wipe his backside on our shirt on his way out and do all sorts of wrong in his personal life and I’d still be sad to hear they’re having medical issues away from the field, even more so when they have a young child.

Tits like some on RedVee, other forums, this forum, social media etc simply want the attention a shocking comment brings.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15795
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16032_1698179828.jpg
"[color=#800080:2tf4iz4f]BOHICA[/color:2tf4iz4f]":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16032.jpg



Quote: NickyKiss "It’s incredible. I can dislike teams, players, fan bases or whatever on a sporting level and I can throw some banter around on places like this but when all is said and done a player could wipe his backside on our shirt on his way out and do all sorts of wrong in his personal life and I’d still be sad to hear they’re having medical issues away from the field, even more so when they have a young child.

Tits like some on RedVee, other forums, this forum, social media etc simply want the attention a shocking comment brings.'"




RankPostsTeam
Player Coach676No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Pie_Eyter "Oh no. I'm so offended
Its just called being nice, having some compassion and generally being a decent human being.

You should try it.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach18737No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
16493_1299497226.jpg
[quote="king warrior":prbr924b]Adam Blair flew over yesterday and has been training the deal is going to be signed this week Got to say this is a top signing[/quote:prbr924b]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16493.jpg

Moderator


And we'd best leave it there.

282 posts in 20 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
282 posts in 20 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.4716796875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
44s
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
44s
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
3079
1m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
2m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40717
2m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
3m
Film game
karetaker
5600
3m
Accounts
Tony Fax
130
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
266
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
484
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1249
England's Women Demolish The W..
1069
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1308
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1099
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1357
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1904
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2121
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2365
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1940
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2175
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2642
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2069
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2147
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,379 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
44s
War of the Roses
karetaker
29
44s
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
3079
1m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
190
2m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40717
2m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
3m
Film game
karetaker
5600
3m
Accounts
Tony Fax
130
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
happyjack
2
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
266
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
484
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1249
England's Women Demolish The W..
1069
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1308
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1099
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1357
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1904
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2121
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2365
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1940
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2175
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2642
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2069
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2147


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!