What is your criteria for saying that Walmsley's behind those other props??He
is the best Prop in Superleague and would walk into any NRL team. The same cannot be said about Bateman.

Criteria? It’s pretty simple, they’re better than he is and are proving it in the best league in the world, against each other and a number of other props who are top 10-15 in the world and also some beastly loose forwards like Taumalolo and Fa'asuamaleaui.

I can buy Walmsley being world class, absolutely I can but we’re living in a dream world if we’re putting him on a par with Haas, Fisher-Harris etc.

Again it comes back to definitions. If world class is top ten (ish) then yes, if world class is top 2 or 3 (as Nathan said) then not for me, not a chance.

By the same token, if it’s top 10 then Bateman is in, if it’s top 2 or 3 then he isn’t.

You mean the Bateman that did walk into an NRL side and won the Dally M as best 2nd rower in the comp? That Bateman?

This debate has been done to death mate. Read the thread and save us all some time.

Walmsley, Lees, Matautia, Amor, Grace and Hopoate missing tonight. Not sure about you NK but I make that 6

I'd back us with 6 out at the minute against Leeds

I was waiting for that



I think you could’ve been shy of 16 tonight and you should still get the win.

Typical Saints luck, your missing 6 and Leeds raise you with about 24 missing

Haha. I don’t think it’ll be a walkover but we should still have enough there. Very light pack for us with only 2 out and out props but we should have too much quality for them.

I actually don’t think it’s a bad thing for Saints going forward to have a few injuries (as long as they’re short term). Those lads like Norman, Bennison, Royle, Wingfield etc need minutes in a team where it feels like people expect them to perform and win games, rather than just being rolled out to give others rests, which for any team seems to result in a drop in intensity across the board.

Yeah I get you. It’s not like we’ve chosen to make 10 changes and almost accepted a defeat the week before a final whatever. There’ll be an element of pressure tonight. Be interesting to see how they cope. I know you joked about Wingfield the other day in terms of his standing as a 1st teamer but I rate him highly. Hope he gets some good minutes tonight.

It was a joke, I do know who the lad is to a point. I can’t say I’ve seen a lot of him but I have heard positive things.

So I’m guessing this has been put to bed now?

No Lees, Walmsley, Grace, Hopoate, Mautatia. There’s 5.

Amor can count as 6.

Child absolutely hammered us with six agains.No matter how poor Leeds have been, to nil any SL team is a superb effort