Well that excludes Bateman as being world class then.

And Walmsley as he’s behind-

Haas
Fisher-Harris
Campbell-Gillard
Saifiti

He’s top 10 but no way top 2-3 in the world.

It’s all about definitions of world class.

I think the difference is he never gets them



You're right though, he does too much of it for my liking. Although in his defence I'm with him that anyone should have the audacity to tackle any Wigan player. The RFL should sort it out. Do they not know we own them?

Mutterings on RedVee about not risking Walmsley tonight, understandable with the cup next week but if they struggle against this Leeds team at the minute without him then maybe a few doubts will creep him and questions get started to be asked

What is your criteria for saying that Walmsley's behind those other props??He
is the best Prop in Superleague and would walk into any NRL team. The same cannot be said about Bateman.

Criteria? It’s pretty simple, they’re better than he is and are proving it in the best league in the world, against each other and a number of other props who are top 10-15 in the world and also some beastly loose forwards like Taumalolo and Fa'asuamaleaui.

I can buy Walmsley being world class, absolutely I can but we’re living in a dream world if we’re putting him on a par with Haas, Fisher-Harris etc.

Again it comes back to definitions. If world class is top ten (ish) then yes, if world class is top 2 or 3 (as Nathan said) then not for me, not a chance.

By the same token, if it’s top 10 then Bateman is in, if it’s top 2 or 3 then he isn’t.

You mean the Bateman that did walk into an NRL side and won the Dally M as best 2nd rower in the comp? That Bateman?

This debate has been done to death mate. Read the thread and save us all some time.

Walmsley, Lees, Matautia, Amor, Grace and Hopoate missing tonight. Not sure about you NK but I make that 6

I'd back us with 6 out at the minute against Leeds

I was waiting for that



I think you could’ve been shy of 16 tonight and you should still get the win.

Typical Saints luck, your missing 6 and Leeds raise you with about 24 missing

Haha. I don’t think it’ll be a walkover but we should still have enough there. Very light pack for us with only 2 out and out props but we should have too much quality for them.