Yeah it was looking at it from a purely selfish, Wigan POV. It's far easier to be successful when others are weak (look at the current Saints side).

Agree with the Salford comment, although it doesn't really matter how you with the CC, as long as you win it. We did it hard in 2011 with wins Vs Wire (A), Saints and Leeds. We also had it easier in 2013 with Hull KR, Widnes, London and Hull in the final. No one really talks about that tho, just the fact we won it.

There used to be an idea that coaches who were screwing up royally only needed to get the push, and the new guy, whoever he happened to be, would produce a dramatic victory in his first match simply because the team were relieved the old administration was gone. I'm pretty sure Brian Noble got an epic win over Huddersfield in his first game with a Wigan team that previously had lost fixture after fixture.

But that myth was exploded today. Sad, because I have no fondness for Castleford and I quite like JJB, but it looks as though the issues at Leeds go way deeper. It may well be that time may also be up for Gary Hetherington, who is as much an employee at Headingley as Richard Agar was.

One thing is certain, we can't keep declining as a domestic game. At present, we are uninspiring across the board. A really crap Leeds would only add to that.

The whole game would be better without Hetherington.

Starting to hear whispers that Agar may end up as the new Fev coach.

Leeds will pick up as soon as Myler is back in the team. Walker for as athletic as he is cannot organise a defence and his passing is pathetic. He is playing the most important position in the team and he is not up to the job.

They had enough field position and ball today to make a game of it but they continually got outnumbered down one side and opened up at will by Cas. Whilst they wont be winning trophies once they get organised they will upset a few. Whoever gets the coaches job is getting a decent job because anything will be an improvement on this season

Leeds will get better if they get the appointment right and bring in a decent coach.