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Quote: NickyKiss "He’s right up there with Walmsley in terms of importance to Saints IMO. He’s isn’t flashy, particularly eye catching etc but does things that you just can’t measure. He isn’t in Lockers league in terms of when Lockers was at his best yet but I recall Lockers getting dogs abuse across the league at 24-25.

I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying and maybe it’s the quality of the league that puts him right up there (IMO). I’m interested to see how he goes in that World Cup. I see Aussie 13’s like Radley, Finucane or Murray lauded and he’s every bit as good IMO. I think he’ll prove that but we’ll see.

Just to add to this around Walmsley, I could see him being found out a bit in the World Cup. He was dreadful for GB under Wayne Bennett and I don’t think the big Aussie, Kiwi, Tongan etc packs will find him anything out of the ordinary.'"

Yesterday's result would suggest otherwise icon_wink.gif

Just one further point on this; I don't buy into this 'he does things that can't be measured' malarky. Greatness doesn't hide under a Bushel. A great player may well do things above and beyond the obvious like motivation, organisation etc but they ALWAYS do plenty that can be measured too. If justification for a player is 'yes, he doesn't do anything flashy or eye-catching but he does lots of work in the background that can't be seen' then he is a solid pro and nothing more. When Knowles starts to take games by the scruff of the neck rather than quietly going about his business then, and only then, will I take claims like 'best in the league' seriously.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "Arguably not world class then'"


one of them was named best second row in the NRL though so probably best in the world at that time.....

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Quote: Pieman "one of them was named best second row in the NRL though so probably best in the world at that time.....'"


Bateman was world class at Canberra but he isn’t now at Wigan.

That isn’t to say he cannot regain that status but at the minute he’s in the good to very good status with excellent and world class still ahead of him.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "Bateman was world class at Canberra but he isn’t now at Wigan.

That isn’t to say he cannot regain that status but at the minute he’s in the good to very good status with excellent and world class still ahead of him.'"


world class is world class, thats like saying Lewis wasnt world class as his Wakefield stint wasnt the best, form is temporary class is permanent

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Quote: Pieman "a hamstring wont normally heal in that time...no'"


It’s been healing for 3 weeks since he did it.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Their attack is woeful mate. Austin constantly running up blind alleys. Our defence is absolutely superb but they didn’t offer enough quality or variety to worry us.'"

Frankly I’m surprised Wolfe didn’t order a round of tea and digestives midway through the first half I doubt Leeds would have hot past the team sat down and Roby playing “mother” pouring the tea so abject Leeds where…and to think pundits had them down for silverware mainly it seems on the back of a few very dodgy signings.

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