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| Quote: sergeant pepper "And that's why the sport is heading for an early grave - including the NRL which is miles above us as a sporting spectacle.
We're sanitising the game for the sake of a small minority of people. Have a look at what the top viewed RL videos are on YouTube and it's full of big hits (many would carry a ban today) and fights. Why? Because people like watching confrontation. It's the reason people pay (not just watch) to see boxers on PPV, or why the UFC has exploded over the last 20 years. Guys like Eddie Hearn and Dana White saw what people wanted, gave it to them and made it must watch TV. We + RU took what was great and moved away from it.
BTW, apart from having huge by ratings, the Khan Vs Brook fight was full of celebrities & PL footballers - I remember a time when that was a Wigan Vs Saints derby. It was must see TV because you knew it would everything, including biff.'"
Rubbish! You don't make a lick of sense. The NRL has never had better viewing figures, it is booming, the game is awash with money in Oz. So you can't use accusations of sanitising the game being damaging there. The truth is, those who 'like the biff' are mostly sad old men (my age, I hasten t add) who are not the sport's future. Much like those who pine for winter rugby. From football to rugby union, even ice-hockey, the trend in all sports as been to cut the thuggery out. And quite right too. Sports need to be TV- and family-friendly.
I wonder if those people watching 'big hits' on YouTube have any real interest in the sport, or ever attend matches.
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| I’m all for banning them for punching but I do think there needs to be a system that allows for each case to be judged on its merits. By that I mean somebody like Ellis should not get the same as a man who runs in and punches from behind. Last night was a poor reaction by Ellis but it was to a poor challenge and there lad threw back as well.
I think we can all deal with it being 3 or 4 games but not 8. To me 8 would be a bit of a joke. It’s a poor reaction but it’s a reaction all the same, it’s not just somebody throwing punches for the sake of it and being a thug.
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| Whilst we are on, or around this topic, it's the double standards & hypocrisy that irritates me more than anything. There was a perfect example of both in last night's game.
Dudson lead with a forearm to Zak's throat last night and nothing was said or done by the ref. Likewise, nothing was said by the idiots on Sky who just talked about Wigan's mistakes instead.
Flip the incident around and ask yourself what would have happened If that was Zak, as the tackler, who'd hit Dudson in exactly the same spot. What's the difference? Likewise from a hypocrisy POV, the guys on Sky would have at least talked about it.
We (as a sport) are all either all in on this, or not. If contact above the neck = dangerous, then it doesn't matter which way that goes.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Whilst we are on, or around this topic, it's the double standards & hypocrisy that irritates me more than anything. There was a perfect example of both in last night's game.
Dudson lead with a forearm to Zak's throat last night and nothing was said or done by the ref. Likewise, nothing was said by the idiots on Sky who just talked about Wigan's mistakes instead.
Flip the incident around and ask yourself what would have happened? If that was Zak, as the tackler, had hit Dudson in exactly the same spot, it would have been a pen. What's the difference? Likewise from a hypocrisy POV, the guys on Sky would have at least talked about it.
We (as a sport) are all either all in on this, or not. If contact above the neck
Good point about Zak he did cop one in the throat,I did expect a penalty at least poss a sin bin. Will see what the powers that be say.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I’m all for banning them for punching but I do think there needs to be a system that allows for each case to be judged on its merits. By that I mean somebody like Ellis should not get the same as a man who runs in and punches from behind. Last night was a poor reaction by Ellis but it was to a poor challenge and there lad threw back as well.
I think we can all deal with it being 3 or 4 games but not 8. To me 8 would be a bit of a joke. It’s a poor reaction but it’s a reaction all the same, it’s not just somebody throwing punches for the sake of it and being a thug.'"
Agreed. The long-term bans should be reserved for serious foul play, like cheap shots, stamping on players or punching players on the ground.
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| Quote: moto748 "Agreed. The long-term bans should be reserved for serious foul play, like cheap shots, stamping on players or punching players on the ground.'"
He looks to be up for 5 to 8 games. Looking at the disciplinary site the fact he aims at the head is bad news though, so it could be top end. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player throw a body punch but if they have enough brains to lose their head, whilst thinking on their feet, they better go for a body shot or maybe the old dead arm punch ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) (or even better just do the Bateman grapple).
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