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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "
I'm still yet to see why we kept Willie Isa aside from him being a really nice guy. He's a hard worker just like every other option at 13 but his wages could have been spent on bringing in a player to strengthen a different area rather than having half a dozen loose forward options of which he might be the most experienced but also the most limited. Smithies was one of the few decent performers tonight and we know that Shorrocks is a decent player. That middle unit of Singleton, Ellis and Isa just doesn't look effective enough.
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I called it at the time and alluded to it in my post above, but the two year contract for Isa was/is absolutely criminal. It was pretty obvious last season that the game was going past him and Smithies was on the cusp of being ready. We're 5 or so games into the season (including the friendlies) and it's all there for everyone to see. Like you said, the money for Isa's renewal should have gone towards someone with a point of difference i.e a bit of size in that backrow.
It's a Clubb esq deal and, like Tony, he'll be a dead weight to carry for the next two years. Add in Partington (2 years left) and Singleton (2 years left) and it screams mismanagement imo. Where's the balance there?
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| I’m all for banning them for punching but I do think there needs to be a system that allows for each case to be judged on its merits. By that I mean somebody like Ellis should not get the same as a man who runs in and punches from behind. Last night was a poor reaction by Ellis but it was to a poor challenge and there lad threw back as well.
I think we can all deal with it being 3 or 4 games but not 8. To me 8 would be a bit of a joke. It’s a poor reaction but it’s a reaction all the same, it’s not just somebody throwing punches for the sake of it and being a thug.
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| Whilst we are on, or around this topic, it's the double standards & hypocrisy that irritates me more than anything. There was a perfect example of both in last night's game.
Dudson lead with a forearm to Zak's throat last night and nothing was said or done by the ref. Likewise, nothing was said by the idiots on Sky who just talked about Wigan's mistakes instead.
Flip the incident around and ask yourself what would have happened If that was Zak, as the tackler, who'd hit Dudson in exactly the same spot. What's the difference? Likewise from a hypocrisy POV, the guys on Sky would have at least talked about it.
We (as a sport) are all either all in on this, or not. If contact above the neck = dangerous, then it doesn't matter which way that goes.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Whilst we are on, or around this topic, it's the double standards & hypocrisy that irritates me more than anything. There was a perfect example of both in last night's game.
Dudson lead with a forearm to Zak's throat last night and nothing was said or done by the ref. Likewise, nothing was said by the idiots on Sky who just talked about Wigan's mistakes instead.
Flip the incident around and ask yourself what would have happened? If that was Zak, as the tackler, had hit Dudson in exactly the same spot, it would have been a pen. What's the difference? Likewise from a hypocrisy POV, the guys on Sky would have at least talked about it.
We (as a sport) are all either all in on this, or not. If contact above the neck
Good point about Zak he did cop one in the throat,I did expect a penalty at least poss a sin bin. Will see what the powers that be say.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I’m all for banning them for punching but I do think there needs to be a system that allows for each case to be judged on its merits. By that I mean somebody like Ellis should not get the same as a man who runs in and punches from behind. Last night was a poor reaction by Ellis but it was to a poor challenge and there lad threw back as well.
I think we can all deal with it being 3 or 4 games but not 8. To me 8 would be a bit of a joke. It’s a poor reaction but it’s a reaction all the same, it’s not just somebody throwing punches for the sake of it and being a thug.'"
Agreed. The long-term bans should be reserved for serious foul play, like cheap shots, stamping on players or punching players on the ground.
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| Quote: moto748 "Agreed. The long-term bans should be reserved for serious foul play, like cheap shots, stamping on players or punching players on the ground.'"
He looks to be up for 5 to 8 games. Looking at the disciplinary site the fact he aims at the head is bad news though, so it could be top end. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a player throw a body punch but if they have enough brains to lose their head, whilst thinking on their feet, they better go for a body shot or maybe the old dead arm punch (or even better just do the Bateman grapple).
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