Very true. That Leeds side could hardly be said to have dominated the comp. In fact, it's relatively rare for the LLS winners to go on and win the GF and probably even rarer for them to win the CC.

I think this season will be an interesting one. Without belittling Saints achievements in any way, the last 2 seasons haven't exactly been an even comp. Even playing a couple games less than an opponent can have an enormous effect, if only in terms of fatigue and a corresponding reduction in the chances of picking up injuries. This season should, in theory at least, be the same for everyone.

Summer is pushing it, he’s probably got a couple on the go already.

He’s great on TV summarising games but horrendous on that podcast. I now only listen to it when it’s Wigan related as him and Mark Flanagan chat irrelevance just to hear the sound of their own voice.

Leave him alone, ignore him. All you're doing is giving him the attention he craves!!

And neither are as bad as the host, which is saying plenty about that guy.

If I could return to a topic discussed upthread: there was much talk of Joe Mills' frustration colouring the views of fans who at that point, had not seen the game themselves. And maybe rightly so. But Joe and Bilko are commentating in real time, they feel the frustration just like the crowd at the stadium do when they see a chance missed. All our views are coloured by the first thing we hear, just like peoples' views on Mago were coloured by NK's mate who thought he looked tired in the NRL.

Not having a pop at you, NK, really!