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| Quote pk="pk"Its being widely reported in the media that approx 85% of hospital admissions are unvaccinated people.'"
So the rest of the population who have acted responsibly throughout all of this potentially will be punished for the actions of the selfish, reckless and feckless minority.
Imagine the scenario where a child suffering a serious trauma was denied an ICU bed because the last place had been taken up by an unvaccinated Covid patient.
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| Quote Sweaty Betty's="Sweaty Betty's"We've had lockdowns which have failed. We were told that vaccines would be the passport to freedom, not true because 90% of adults have been vaccinated and we are no nearer being released from this authoritarian grip. Perhaps, just perhaps, we should try something different! I suggest herd immunity and focused protection and then we can get back to normality. The Great Plague didn't last as long as this and that happened more than 450 years ago!!! Listen to this lot at your peril.'"
Which lockdowns failed and why?
- Too late into lockdown?
- Insufficient rules in lockdown?
- Rules not being followed by public?
The vaccines did grant us freedom until a new variant came about that started to evade the vaccines.
Hasn't the herd immunity theory been rubbished? How will that work?
By focused protection do you mean just shield the elderly and the vulnerable and just let "the rest of us get on with it"?
Sounds like you're arguing against vaccines and lockdowns without suggesting any plausible alternatives.
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| Quote pk="pk"Its being widely reported in the media that approx 85% of hospital admissions are unvaccinated people.'"
Please send a link to this, will be an interesting read.
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| Quote tedglen="tedglen"Correct, lockdowns don't work, and I think that if this Government tries to impose something that they clearly don't practice themselves, they will experience the wrath of the Public.
Boris et al, continuously preach the merits of the third jab, but for Christ's sake please provide the evidence to back this up! There was a report on the BBC late last night regarding the surge of Covid cases in New York, a part of which showed a graph of infections over time. New infections amongst the fully vaccinated remained low but constant; partially vaccinated still relatively low but rising slightly, whilst the line representing the unvaccinated was rising exponentially.
Let's see what the situation is here, and then let the public determine, and act upon, their own individual risk assessment based on that data.
I'm fully vaccinated, and since restrictions were lifted, I've still always worn a face covering in shops and public transport, and I still go to the pub once or twice a week and meet up with friends (who have operated on a similar cautious vein). We're all fine, thankfully.'"
Haven't they already provided the evidence that demonstrates Omicron evading those who have had 2 vaccinations and once you have the booster you are protected around 80-85%? What more is there to say?
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Please send a link to this, will be an interesting read.'"
my sister works in the ICU she said 100% are
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| Quote tedglen="tedglen"So the rest of the population who have acted responsibly throughout all of this potentially will be punished for the actions of the selfish, reckless and feckless minority.
Imagine the scenario where a child suffering a serious trauma was denied an ICU bed because the last place had been taken up by an unvaccinated Covid patient.'"
Basically, yep.
The anti-vax argument of libertarianism and freedom of choice is going to end up removing everyone's freedoms
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| I’ve been and had my booster, despite what I said merely a week ago.
Few reasons really; I can see where it’s going (double jabbed plus booster) for the ‘passport’ they say doesn’t exist but does. Also I can’t remember who posted it but the ‘primary school - 1st jab, secondary school - 2nd jab and university - booster jab’ comparison. In addition I’ve done some research, I think as nathan_rugby advised, and everywhere I’ve read is that the booster is 80-85% effective. Or to put simply my “I’m not listening to this shower of the proverbial anymore” argument is essentially biting my nose to spite my face.
That said, I still don’t believe lockdowns or restrictions are viable anymore, not just because of this shower in charge but how many more times do we do it? Every winter? There’s always a flu spike around this time hence the yearly flu jab drive. Perhaps that’s what’ll happen with COVID or, as would make better sense (and if possible!) the COVID jab is incorporated into the flu jab. Clearly I’m no medicinal scientist, I’ve no idea if that’s possible or already has been done, but if it is possible surely that’s the way to go?
I’d imagine masks and jabs are going to be around for quite sometime, even if there are no rules regulating the wearing of them. Wearing a mask doesn’t bother me in all honesty, so much so today I forgot I was wearing it and drove home from the club shop in my car on my own with it still on. The few good things to come out of all this though are better community spirit, better all round hygiene and a far better and deeper understanding of what family and friendship actually mean.
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Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Please send a link to this, will be an interesting read.'"
It was quoted in the media by Dr Hilary, Lorraine Kelly, Martin Kemp Jeremy Vine and others and its bull. They got called out on it. None have accepted an offer to debate them with Jamie Jenkins who breaks down the data.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 38736/amp/
People hear it on tv and do not question it
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet ... 4245481476
Its obvious vaxx does help but what does not help is blatantly lying. Some are anti vaxx and you will never change their minds when ppl lie.
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Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Please send a link to this, will be an interesting read.'"
It was quoted in the media by Dr Hilary, Lorraine Kelly, Martin Kemp Jeremy Vine and others and its bull. They got called out on it. None have accepted an offer to debate them with Jamie Jenkins who breaks down the data.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.u ... 38736/amp/
People hear it on tv and do not question it
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet ... 4245481476
Its obvious vaxx does help but what does not help is blatantly lying. Some are anti vaxx and you will never change their minds when ppl lie.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"Haven't they already provided the evidence that demonstrates Omicron evading those who have had 2 vaccinations and once you have the booster you are protected around 80-85%? What more is there to say?'"
How often is this 'fact' stated by the media though? This should be rammed down everyone's throat every day and night, time after time ad nauseum. This is the way out of this nonsense. I may be being a little cruel here, but I feel that the media are only interested in reporting the doom and gloom sensational aspects.....
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| the top and bottom of all this is, it's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else over what other people have decided to do or not do for whatever their reason no matter how loud anybody shouts, judges or stereotypes others. People need to wind their necks in and stop butting in to other peoples personal choices whether you agree or not.
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"the top and bottom of all this is, it's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else over what other people have decided to do or not do for whatever their reason no matter how loud anybody shouts, judges or stereotypes others. People need to wind their necks in and stop butting in to other peoples personal choices whether you agree or not.'"
Nonsense.. when other peoples choices / actions result in possible negative changes to my and my families freedom and health, then I have every right to voice my concerns about their decisions.
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