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| Quote: NickyKiss "The coaching appointment will absolutely be the biggest difference maker for us. There’s no way of knowing it it’ll work with Peet but there’s a minimum of 20% plus in each and every one of our players IMO and Lam just didn’t get from them.
I look at Man United at the minute and I hear family/friends saying ‘why does the manager always get the blame?’ and I smile. I look at the transformation in Rugby League of Wigan in 2010 and Saints in 2017 onwards and in football with teams like Chelsea last season or Liverpool under Klopp and they absolutely prove just how important the manager/coach is and why they get the blame when things aren’t going right. I’m not saying we have a squad of comparable quality to a Man U but good coaches improve players and even ones that you feel are a basket case/write off. Those examples above just highlight what can be achieved with largely the same set of players as before a new appointment.
We need a bit more quality in a couple of positions I believe but the first priority has to be improving the players already here.'"
It's funny you mention Man Utd, because I was thinking about how the two clubs seem to be travelling along similar lines in terms of underperforming given their status and resources, For me, they both seem to be stuck (in part) because of two things, nostalgia (even recent) and entitlement, you could even say they are linked.
United have turned to Solskjaer and have even re-signed Ronaldo (who while scoring against low to mid team hasn't had a sniff against a good team like Liverpool and City). We've done the same in terms of the stupidly large number of ex-player we continue re-sign. We've even gone back to Wane in some form. We were successful when these players / coach were around, so we'll go back to that, which doesn't seem to appreciate that other teams have moved on and are looking to / have improved. We've even recruited our new (untested) coach from within instead of that new thinking we had in 2010.
The number of ex-players we've re-signed could be a case study for future sports leadership / psychology degrees.
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| Quote: Pemps "So head coach and his right hand man?'"
Exactly.
You just have to listen to/read what has been said so far over and over about the culture to know that certain people had little to no say in what went on.
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| Quote: MattyB "Assuming French and Hardaker don't decide to head off last minute is everyone satisfied with the playing roster for next season?
French
Miski, Bibby, Hardaker, Marshall
Cust, Field
Singleton, Powell, Mago
Farrell, Bateman
Partington
Smith, Hanley, Thornley, Halsall,
Ellis, Isa, Smithies, Pearce-Paul, Leulaui, Byrne, Havard, Shorrocks, O'Neill, McDonnell.
Apologies if anyone missed.
Is this squad capable of the playoffs/silverware, bearing in mind other teams have improved too (Saints, Catalans, Wire, Hull FC and Leeds).
Add in to the effect of a new coaching team which includes SW.
Of course the usual suspects on the Virtual Terrace have us down as low as fifth/sixth on the predictions thread.'"
On paper, better than last year but it does depend on how the new guys/coaches gell TBH. As the Reserves restart as well this could help us bring the U19s on and a real gem from there would be welcome. I think we are shy a really good prop and a class centre.
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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Quote: MattyB "Assuming French and Hardaker don't decide to head off last minute is everyone satisfied with the playing roster for next season?
French
Miski, Bibby, Hardaker, Marshall
Cust, Field
Singleton, Powell, Mago
Farrell, Bateman
Partington
Smith, Hanley, Thornley, Halsall,
Ellis, Isa, Smithies, Pearce-Paul, Leulaui, Byrne, Havard, Shorrocks, O'Neill, McDonnell.
Apologies if anyone missed.
Is this squad capable of the playoffs/silverware, bearing in mind other teams have improved too (Saints, Catalans, Wire, Hull FC and Leeds).
Add in to the effect of a new coaching team which includes SW.
Of course the usual suspects on the Virtual Terrace have us down as low as fifth/sixth on the predictions thread.'"
I’m happy with that squad, I was worried maybe French/Hardaker/Field would leave (maybe one still will).
We’ve all probably said this the last few years but hopefully this is the year Partington/ Smithies / Byrne / Havard take their game to another level. Itll be their 3rd/4th full year of SL, hopefully a much better coaching staff and these NRL forwards will provide better support than Clubb/Bullock.
Can’t wait for it
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| Me neither. Just checked the fixture list to make sure I wasn't missing too many games due to holidays etc and I'm getting my season ticket next week
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| I think it’s a good squad, well balanced and versatile. Like I’ve said before I want the world but I expect progression, one step further than last season will do. It may seem small dreams for a big club but we’ve got to stay realistic.
But can I just say I cannot wait for the season to start. Absolutely buzzing for it!!
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