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Quote: Smalls "Brilliant post, completely agree.
Wigan have done brilliantly the last decade and with Leeds are one of the 2 most successful teams in that period..'"


The decade has been and gone much faster than you might have thought……

In SuperLeague there’s now clear daylight between Saints and Leeds/Wigan over the last decade. The last 10 seasons (lifted straight off “a.n.other” forum…)

2012 LLS Wigan GF Champions Leeds

2013 LLS Huddersfield GF Champions Wigan

2014 LLS Saints GF Champions Saints

2015 LLS Leeds GF Champions Leeds

2016 LLS Wire GF Champions Wigan

2017 LLS Castleford GF Champions Leeds

2018 LLS Saints GF Champions Wigan

2019 LLS Saints GF Champions Saints

2020 LLS Wigan GF Champions Saints

2021 LLS Catalans GF Champions Saints

Sport is cyclical, but Leeds dominance wasn’t really in the last decade it was 2007-11, however their treble in 15 was a fantastic achievement.


The comp needs a strong Wigan and Leeds otherwise it’s a race to the bottom. I expect a resurgence in effort this season from Wigan but it’s a period of rebuilding and getting rid of the dead wood in my opinion.

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Quote: Ruddy Duck "Who alluded to it?

The club or supporters.'"


He picked players that weren't fit. Do you think he listened to his support staff (analysts, physios, coaches etc) when making those selections?

I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5, but seeing as he demanded a signing (Sammut) and then didn't pick him I'm pretty confident in my maths skills.

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Yeah the idea that Sammut was Lam's choice seems odd, given that, whatever you think about him, the fact is that he wasn't given much of a shot at Wigan.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "They alluded to it at the forum with him selecting multiple players who weren't fit.'"


There are two mentions of injuries, are there others you are referring to? What they do not definitely say is that Lam acted against advice, it could simply be a viewpoint in hindsight.

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[iWhat that did do it meant that he came into the season completely underprepared to be brutally honest. He needed a good five or six weeks of more pre-season training and him to get his body right to play. So that’s a reflection of something that I believe we could have done better. I think he was probably selected a little bit early, four or five more weeks, and we might have been in a different position. [/i

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They only mentioned him turning up overweight, working him too hard in pre-season.

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Quote: nathan_rugby "There are two mentions of injuries, are there others you are referring to? What they do not definitely say is that Lam acted against advice, it could simply be a viewpoint in hindsight.

French
[iWhat that did do it meant that he came into the season completely underprepared to be brutally honest. He needed a good five or six weeks of more pre-season training and him to get his body right to play. So that’s a reflection of something that I believe we could have done better. I think he was probably selected a little bit early, four or five more weeks, and we might have been in a different position. [/i

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They only mentioned him turning up overweight, working him too hard in pre-season.'"


As I said above, may be me getting 5 from 2+2 but if a player isn't fit and we know he isn't fit then someone somewhere within the coaching setup will have said something.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "He picked players that weren't fit. Do you think he listened to his support staff (analysts, physios, coaches etc) when making those selections?

I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5, but seeing as he demanded a signing (Sammut) and then didn't pick him I'm pretty confident in my maths skills.'"



Seeing that compared to a normal season, the squad was light in numbers with some players on long term injuries and one or more suspended, there may have been times when the odd player or so was carrying a knock and not fully fit.

I seem to recalled that on one occasion, the club could only announce a pre match squad of only nineteen players instead of the normal twenty one.

The fact that twenty five games were completed is a credit to the club and the coaching team headed by Lam even if the results were not good enough.

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