Excellent debate there about Smith. Some good points raised IMO and valid ones at that.

I’ll throw my 20p worth in about Smith. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; I’d like to see Smith with a decent Head Coach and behind a good pack before I start calling for his departure. FWIW I agree in part with jonh that he certainly isn’t showing that promise or talent he was rapped to have. He hasn’t taken games by the scruff of the neck and has gone into hiding. For me he looks lost, he looks like he’s no idea what his coach wants him to do other than “Give it Hastings”. Perhaps he does need to be a little stronger and do things himself but you’ve got to remember he’s only really in his 2nd season at the top level and whilst HB’s need a commanding voice and confident strut about them, Smith has strong personalities taking over him.

Smithies, Partington and Byrne for me can go. I’ve seen enough. They all had promising starts but the more I watch them the more it’s obvious to see they’re nothing more than mid-lower SL standard. Players who have a dig but are in the main ineffective. Shorrocks has something about him I like but I’m leaning towards putting him in the aforementioned category to be honest.

It feels a little like scape goat hunting here. We all know the root cause of these issues - Adrian Lam

Ah, thanks for explaining this, it makes perfect sense now. Wigan are actually beating everyone out of sight, they are playing scintillating rugby! Sculthorpe has no clue what he’s on about (the guy’s no idea….) nor has Baz!

Here’s to another couple of years of success under Lam, the coach of the year 2020….



No, wait??……

I went to the Dragons v Roosters game on Sunday. Ellis is a big boy, not much smaller then Wareah Hargreaves. From what I saw he won’t make huge metres with the ball but can’t be any worse than what we have. Does a lot more minutes than Clubb so that’s a good start.

Looking at his stats, he had the worst meters made & post contact meters for the St George pack. Having said that, it was the 1st game I've seen him start so he must be progressing.

With guys like this, you can only sit back and see how it plays out.

It's about 4 or 5 games worth for Tony Clubb