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I somehow thought this was going to be on the (council) telly, or ourleague. Now mulling over whether to go down the pub for the second half.

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Quote: Grimmy "Correct, they don't penalise accidental offside. It is a turnover (or scrum pre-COVID)

Already answered earlier
A bit pedantic Grimmy. It certainly isn't play on!


As for the comparison to head high: are you saying Charnley didn't intend making contact? Then why didn't he try to jump over the prone player? He absolutely intended to (as he puts it) "put his boots where Marshall's head was" (sic). I'm not suggesting he tried to injure him purposely but he did intend to...shall we say.."compete" for the ball. It's not dissimilar to when a player slides into the tackle feet first in football and takes the player rather than the ball. It's no use pleading "but I was going for the ball, I didn't intend to make contact". That just doesn't wash.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "100% he should have gone to the video ref.

Hicks doesn't learn and never will. He lost Saints a CC final a few years back because of his cock sure attitude. This is the problem with these guys - they are too protected and in turn they are turning into mini divas who want the attention to be on them. His billy big balls attitude of 'look at me making decisions' is pathetic. When anything is said either by coaches, owners or fans on social he's melts.

What a stupid rule btw. You can accidently kick someone in the head and it's not a pen, but you accidentally tackle someone high and get a penalised.'"


I thought I was looking at old pages from Redvee when I read this. Think you'll find that the Saints coach's team selection for that game cost them the cup, not Hicks.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Phuzzy "A bit pedantic Grimmy. It certainly isn't play on!


As for the comparison to head high
I don't think he had time to attempt to jump over him to be honest. If he was intending to stick his boot in there (whether going for the ball or not) then it's reckless rather than accidental and should be at least a sin bin, more likely a red given the severity.

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Quote: Grimmy "I don't think he had time to attempt to jump over him to be honest. If he was intending to stick his boot in there (whether going for the ball or not) then it's reckless rather than accidental and should be at least a sin bin, more likely a red given the severity.'"


Had Marshall been a one foot high wall he’d have jumped over him.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Tough to put a figure on it but looking at Leeds and Wires crowds recently, I’d say they have been around 2,000 down on what they would’ve expected on the same nights and against the same teams back in 2019. We were about 5,000 down against Wakey by comparison, so a difference of around 3,000. Those 3,000 aren’t going to turn up to watch a team that has averaged 10 points a game over the last 9 fixtures. It’s turgid rugby and just offers no entertainment value whatsoever. I go because I’m a saddo and will support the club come what may but I fully understand people who would say there’s no incentive to go. It isn’t enjoyable watching the team, in fact at times you go away in a worse mood than the one you turned up in. The none die hards go to be entertained, to sit there and have some wow moments during the game and to walk away with a spring in their step. Watching us struggle to string 3 passes together, getting totally dominated in the middle of the field and pinch one or two try’s at best a game isn’t going to get those people in the ground. It certainly won’t be changing this season so we’ll have to grin and bear it. It’ll be the Saints crowd that will be a real eye opener. I doubt it’ll break 10,000-11,000 unless Saints bring 4,000 or 5,000 with them.'"



You only have to look at the atmospheres created by supporters at Emerald Headingly, Totally Wicked and Helliwell Jones Stadiums compared to that at the DW Stadium.

Like being in a morgue, until the team get well in front!

Our problem is that the DW Stadium is too big in capacity because of Whelan and the Council having the ridiculous idea that the Latics would draw in bigger crowds for every game and Wigan would become a bigger football town like Blackburn, Blackpool, Bolton, Burnley, Preston etc.

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