wasnt that the year the englan ru team won bbc s. p. o. t. y after drawing with nz?

They made the WC final in 91 as well

Possibly, but you only have to look at the way Johnny Wilkinson's status as some kind of legendary megastar has been cemented by a drop-goal to see how the Union boys don't have to do much to win praise.

Graham Lowe was the best coach Wigan have ever had in my view. His victory over Manly was a titanic effort, and should immortalise him as a Wigan great on its own.

great team

What are the first three words of the post?

He did slightly more than drop a goal, but that would happen in most sports. Andy Murray, Lewis Hamilton. I mean Hamilton just drives round in a car that is faster than everyone elses. Be like Usain Bolt celebrating beating Tony Clubb in a race.

Do you not think the player who scores the winning goal for England in a WC would be a hero?

Sadly, as nobody gives a about RL anymore the same probably wouldn't happen with us.

Graham Lowe revolutionised Wigan and the British game
In 6 months he moved Wigan forward 10 years.
He was a very emotional guy who still had a bit of the old style coaching about him (mixed on with the obvious advance australian methods) and there numerous fall outs (not that i blame him for them) with the big names.

Well never k ownif Monie could have done again Lowe did (or vice versa) but I believe Monie just has the edge as he built on what Lowe did, but as a man manager he was superior for me.

I always looked at it like this
For a one off game I would take Lowe
For a multiple year stint id have taken Monie

Would you say that Wane was more like Lowe?

I used to think that, but now I see him as more in-between the 2
From what I've heard from people in the dressing room, and then through a quirk of luck ending up sitting next to him through a whole Wigan game, he isn't as fiery as most people expect.

And from speaking to people who have worked with him, I think a lot of people underestimate the work he did from the bottom of the club upwards. I think he's a great man manager as well.

A mate of mine (ex professional who played at a high club level) has a brother in law who is involved in the coaching of a national sporting organisation. They were looking to improve and asked around other sporting organisations and were told to go and speak to the British cycling team for example amongst others and when they approached the RFL they ended up spending 2 weeks with wigan (this was about 3 years ago).
They couldn't speak highly enough of Wigan RLFC and in particular Wane. He said the structure from the youth scouting, mentoring, education and then pathways through to the academy/reserves/1st team was as good as anything they'd seen.

That reinforced everything that I'd been told about the club and Wane.

Wane IMO will never get the credit he deserves from a lot of quarters, but he would be up there in the conversation when talking about best Wigan coaches

I've always felt - and there's no science behind this, it's just a suspicion - that Shaun Wane suffered from the unfixable problem of not having an Australian accent. It's been so long since the British game has seen a revolutionary coach who was actually British that a lot of fans, perhaps unconsciously, seem to assume it will never happen again.

I'm not saying that Shaun was revolutionary, by the way, just that he was very good, very successful, and yet weirdly underappreciated in his time.