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| Generally I can't stand people moaning about the refs.
Reasonable criticism is fine but I really think that's the minority.
Far more often IMO the fans have no clue what they're talking about. Look at the reaction to the Griffin head pat, 'When has that ever been a penalty! A penalty for THAT in a playoff game!, Wigan can do it but you can't do it to them!' all things I've seen when in reality Wigan were penalized for it, last year, in a playoff game.
People often complain about forward passes in tries and of course you'd like the refs to get them all right. But it's another case where so often people don't understand the rules and physics of running with a ball.
Another element of that is for example the pass to Sneyd where he nearly scores travels about 5m forward, it might have been backwards out of the hands but it doesn't look good. The point is though that no one remembers it because Wigan defended it anyway.
Saints fans last year made out like they had no chance to win once the Knowles try had been disallowed. It was one try in the first 5 minutes, if you can't overcome that you don't deserve it anyway. And then it's not like they played the perfect game but the ref just robbed them of that try, Saints made about 20 errors in that game.
I'm not even going to get into the conspiracy stuff you see about certain teams receiving beneficial treatment.
I wonder if people in their own lives hold themselves to the standards they expect of referees, or would welcome the scrutiny and treatment they call for.
I try to bear in mind there is no game without them and almost always the teams have enough say to have won with or without the mistakes of referees. Where there are Ganson Magic levels of mistakes criticism is warranted but i really think it's generally way over the top. Was there some golden age of referees where they were all great and no one complained about them? Are they that much worse in rugby league than other sports? Im not convinced.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Well if they're down to 11 men there's a bloody good chance they would to be fair'"
That’s a fair point
I’m more getting at the point that I’ve seen Leeds fans laying blame squarely at the refs door when they had been comprehensively outplayed. No ref/video ref would be brave enough to send Joel Tomkins off as well for that incident. They would always be put on report to be investigated by the disciplinary. I shudder to think how the ref could get enough evidence on the field to send him off ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| It would make The Bunker a very interesting listen ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote: NickyKiss "That’s a fair point
As far as I'm aware (someone may know differently) the Tomkins type incident is never seen "as it happens" so there was never any chance of them being down to 11 men...or 9 as Barrie Mac would say! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Match officials will always be an easy target for fans and coaches alike. Easy to criticise them rather than look at the shortcomings of your own side.
I still maintain that refs make less mistakes than players. Things would improve a lot of the sky commentators actually had an idea and understanding of the laws the game. They feed the bile and the anger, as well as a dribble of misinformation that the Trump administration would be embarrassed by. If I'd have had a pound for each time I'd had a player say to me "sky said" I'd have been able to fund Toronto for the next 10 years.
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| Quote: mikey800 "Match officials will always be an easy target for fans and coaches alike. Easy to criticise them rather than look at the shortcomings of your own side.
I still maintain that refs make less mistakes than players. Things would improve a lot of the sky commentators actually had an idea and understanding of the laws the game. They feed the bile and the anger, as well as a dribble of misinformation that the Trump administration would be embarrassed by. If I'd have had a pound for each time I'd had a player say to me "sky said" I'd have been able to find Toronto for the next 10 years.'"
Absolutely spot on. It gets boring listening to them witter on about decisions when half the time they think the ref has given a penalty for something totally different. They spent 30 seconds debating a ball steal on Bibby on Thursday when the ref had blown up for offside. Their constant cry’s of “forward pass” are embarrassing as well. Just concentrate on calling the play and let the ref take care of the decisions. They focus on the negatives constantly. Compare that to Union who’s commentators refuse to call out a forward pass or knock on and just say everything is amazing.
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