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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: Itchy Arsenal "How do you know that I haven't been university? I may have formed my opinions whilst at university based on my experiences.
I don't think that I have ever said that every person who has gone to university is brainwashed or that they ALL involved in a subversive plot?
I said that the more people that go through university the more will be subjected to subversion.
Do you not acknowledge the goals of Gramsci and Laclau + Mouffe tacitly sought to use universities in their use of identity politics in dismantling the capitalist system?
Can't people who didn't go university also shape their will onto the world? I am merely stating that across major areas of our society is exclusively owned by ex university students some as you state e.g. medical based absolutely need formal education based learning but why does it apply to MPs, TV presenters, journalists? Michael Parkinson was a pretty good journalist and broadcaster he had no formal education I believe after his O levels.

I am using education as a sledgehammer to highlight how absurd identity politics are.I did not state that you didn't agree with diversity of education etc I was merely trying to establish if did or didn't agree that diversity is more than sex, gender and race.
Why did Lacalu & Mouffe only choose sex, gender and race for diversity? I suspect they thought these groups would be more useful than groups of say religion or age in dismantling capitalism. They didn't give a shoite about diversity it was a means to an end.

I've met professors, lecturers, students, activists and a politician who are communists but I've yet to meet a plumber, brickie, plasterer or a sparkie who is a communist. Funny that.
When I grew up on our estate there was one guy who was a communist. He never worked in the 40 odd years that I know him. Funny that.

On Brexit by the way I agree with you'"


I never said that you had or you hadn't?
How do I know you haven't been subjected to subversive tactics used by other Political entities to push you down a particular way of thinking?

It's not strange how people in particular walks of life such as politicians, activists, lecturers etc. have political views, whilst people in Blue collar jobs don't as much - It's quite logical to be honest
What I will say is that if you ask Joe Average, they are more likely to have had different types of Subversion tactics used on them by other methods, platforms.

I also know loads of people in life on my estate who aren't communists, and loads of them haven't worked in 40+ years either
Do I label all of them as something and infer that they're all "Something" ?

"There's a lad on my council Estate voted Brexit - He hates Immigrants, He's never had a Job - He's just a Lazy Right Wing Fascist - So all Brexit voters are the same" - Well it's not true is it?

It's obvious that there are people with certain views on let's say the "Right" side of the argument (And for those tuning in I mean Political right!) who seem to believe that anyone who stands up to the Conservatives, The ERG, Nigel Farage, The Big corporations who don't like paying Taxes, The Greedy, The original "Elite", Donald Trump, Fox news, Brieghtbart etc.etc. are Communists/Marxists immediately.

There's no rational acknowledgement that half of the country want a fairer society and 99.9% of it isn't some subversion plot that we've all been exposed to (I certainly haven't been exposed at University for example because I didn't go to one) manifesting itself as some kind of communist coup.

It worries/saddens me the way the country has turned in the last 10/12 years
I find it abhorrent the Right Wing Rhetoric and the voice it's given to the Armchair Racists (Who continue to grow stronger every day in the current climate)
I find it incredulous that the average man is being told that this government (And it's USA Parallel) that they are the party for you - Whilst they are lining their own pockets and the pockets of the Eton etc. elite - Whilst convincing people that it's the Teachers/lecturers/artists/ and students with their 90k of debt that are the elite!

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House!'"


Facts are facts.

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Quote: post "Facts are facts.'"


Unless they are "Alternative Facts" - We know the Right like to use those as well

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Jesus, are the useful idiots still falling for the dead cat "culture war" distractions?

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Quote: Jukesays "I was surprised to learn that the Middle east only became a problem in 2008 - I thought it had been going on a lot longer than that?

Anyway - in Post's statement he does intimate that Hillary Clinton herself said
"Hillary Clinton made the middle east more volatile, I gave perfect examples from horses mouth herself as to why it was a mistake to get rid of Gaddafi"

Had a look at the links provided - Not really sure I see any evidence there that she regrets her actions?
Whilst

Who said it only became a problem then? The middle east has always been a problem and always will, it needs people like Hussein and Gaddafi because they are the lesser of two evils, I don't agree with them as leaders and the things they did but what's the alternative? A less safer world? The UK and Europe have witnessed terror attacks as a result of getting rid of Hussein and Gaddafi, we would be safe to walk the Christmas markets, to walk around London and so on had we left then to it.

If Clinton doesn't regret the decision that's even worse. They need to learn their lessons and stay away from the middle east, let them get on with their own business.

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See there's plenty room on the bandwagon now everybody has jumped off and moved to the next issue. Maybe it was a bad idea to take a political stance. Now 400 turning up instead of 1,000,000 makes you think.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-08-30/mil ... cism-rally

Now further down the road in Trafalgar Square there were thousands protesting against vaccines, 5g and lizard people, should the club take a stance on them too? Maybe warm up in tin foil hats?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... est-london

(By the way, I am trolling.)
See there's plenty room on the bandwagon now everybody has jumped off and moved to the next issue. Maybe it was a bad idea to take a political stance. Now 400 turning up instead of 1,000,000 makes you think.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-08-30/mil ... cism-rally

Now further down the road in Trafalgar Square there were thousands protesting against vaccines, 5g and lizard people, should the club take a stance on them too? Maybe warm up in tin foil hats?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... est-london

(By the way, I am trolling.)


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