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| Quote post="post"The whole identity politics quagmire is one I don't fancy getting in to, because no matter what you say to challenge a certain view or point, there is a term used against you which shuts down the argument. From my view if some reasonable person starts asking questions with a genuine curiosity because they're labelled a gammon, or a Karen, or a moron.
Its such a divisive and sensitive issue that separates people and sets them to argue, and this is why politics and sport shouldn't mix.'"
There is nothing political about taking a knee to highlight racism.
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| Quote post="post"Sky Sports seem to be pushing the agenda heavily so I'd hazard a guess at them.'"
Is that the same sky sports that are the......MEDIA?
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| When sporting idols like Anthony Joshua make statements on a microphone in the street to thousands of protesters saying 'Hit them (white people) where it hurts, invest only in black business and boycott their (white people's) shops' then it becomes more about simply showing solidarity. It has gone way too far now and has massively split opinions, just read through the pages on this thread. I can't support a political movement that wants to actively abolish the police force. It's ridiculous.
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| Quote Pie_Eyter="Pie_Eyter"When sporting idols like Anthony Joshua make statements on a microphone in the street to thousands of protesters saying 'Hit them (white people) where it hurts, invest only in black business and boycott their (white people's) shops' then it becomes more about simply showing solidarity. It has gone way too far now and has massively split opinions, just read through the pages on this thread. I can't support a political movement that wants to actively abolish the police force. It's ridiculous.'"
Abolishing the police is nuts. Reforming it isn't. I dont support the political movement either. Its obviously been corrupted and seized upon by people who aren't looking for equality. But I do support a players right to take a knee before a game. Especially when those players have openly said its not about politics, its about what they and their teammates have personally endured. Sky politicise it and call it a movement. The players themselves just want to say enough is enough
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| Quote Angelus="Angelus"Abolishing the police is nuts. Reforming it isn't. I dont support the political movement either. Its obviously been corrupted and seized upon by people who aren't looking for equality. But I do support a players right to take a knee before a game. Especially when those players have openly said its not about politics, its about what they and their teammates have personally endured. Sky politicise it and call it a movement. The players themselves just want to say enough is enough'"
Why should Wigan RFLC players do a gesture on the pitch before a game to signify their support of a movement that says that our Police Force (Not service, which is the best in the World) is institutionally racist and seeks to defund it? How about the players do whatever political stance in their own time and leave it out of sport.
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| Quote Angelus="Angelus"Abolishing the police is nuts. Reforming it isn't. I dont support the political movement either. Its obviously been corrupted and seized upon by people who aren't looking for equality. But I do support a players right to take a knee before a game. Especially when those players have openly said its not about politics, its about what they and their teammates have personally endured. Sky politicise it and call it a movement. The players themselves just want to say enough is enough'"
My natural inclination was to support black lives matter but once I went on their website it became obvious that they are a communist organisation- end to capitalism, end to nuclear family, abolish police etc. I detest communism and far right politics for me 2 cheeks of the same harris.
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| Quote Angelus="Angelus"There is nothing political about taking a knee to highlight racism.'"
Racism? I hope these acts of racism were reported to the Police because there are laws already in place against racism. Certain occurrences can be labelled 'Hate Crimes' if they are committed against a person because of the colour of their skin and dealt with accordingly.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"My natural inclination was to support black lives matter but once I went on their website it became obvious that they are a communist organisation- end to capitalism, end to nuclear family, abolish police etc. I detest communism and far right politics for me 2 cheeks of the same harris.'"
Spot on.
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| Somebody needs to change the name of this topic.
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| Quote JonnyBroad="JonnyBroad"Somebody needs to change the name of this topic.'"
Or just delete it
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"My natural inclination was to support black lives matter but once I went on their website it became obvious that they are a communist organisation- end to capitalism, end to nuclear family, abolish police etc. I detest communism and far right politics for me 2 cheeks of the same harris.'"
They are marxists, but let's not split hairs......
Oh, i did. There is no doubt that the problems of inequality are a long long way from being solved. But you always have to be careful just who are using genuine issues to further their own, separate, issues...
The sport/politics crossover can have massive benefits when used effectively. It's very sad when others get onto any bandwagon to press their own agenda
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