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| Quote: sally cinnamon "As an outsider I thought 94/95 was 'peak Wigan' of all their dominant years. The year before under Dorahy Wigan hadn't been the same side and nearly got chased down by Wire and Bradford. People were starting to say the chinks were showing and the end of the dynasty was in sight. Then in 94/95 Wigan went on to another level.
I also think RL as a sport peaked around that time, at least in my lifetime watching (1989 - ). There were so many quality players around and also some iconic teams. As well as Wigan there was Mal Meninga's Canberra Raiders in Aus. I thought GB under Mal Reilly/Ellery Hanley had a cracking side at that time but they were surpassed by a great Kangaroos team.
However, a lot of the game's best players were late into their careers then
Indeed. I think at the end of that season Clarke and Betts went down under, with Botica leaving also, and by the end of the final winter season, Offiah had moved on as well. The 94/95 team had some real quality in depth, with guys like Acheson, Radlinski, Murdoch, McDermott, Cassidy not first choice, and Haughton et al coming through. Sadly guys like Haughton never had the sustained impact of Betts, who he replaced, which is a shame as he looked like he would be a world beater.
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "Not all those Bradford players were there at the same time...Henry Paul never played with Vainikolo or Hape. They had Spruce, McAvoy, Brooker, Costin, Harris (Ben and Iestyn) in there at various times.
I think Hape was the best, he was maybe underrated, and he missed some long spells with injury.
Vainikolo...not as good as Tuigamala. He was a juggernaut when in full flow but he could be targeted too with teams putting kicks on the ground behind him, he was slow and could be clumsy on the turn.
But in the final third of that last Grand Final winning season, in 2005, the Hape-Vainikolo combination was unstoppable. They were savaging teams like Miles and Offiah.
St Helens had a good back line at the time as well, with Wellens, Albert, Lyon, Talau and Gardner.'"
Inga and Robinson were better, again with the saints team none were better man for man than that Wigan back line
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| On Henry Paul....how good do you think he was, really?
I have never made my mind up on whether he was just very good (eg Robbie) or absolute world class.
He had a bit of Cristiano Ronaldo about him, in that he wasn't just content to be a ball playing talent, but developed a rock solid physique, made sure there weren't really any flaws in his game. He also had that swaggering arrogance.
Was his departure for Bradford the key factor that tipped the balance away from Wigan to Bradford over the next few years?
It seemed to weaken Wigan a lot when HP left, but Bradford seemed to take it in their stride when he left them. Maybe the way they were winning games meant that they were less reliant on a great 6. And also was why it was a bad business decision for them a few years later to tie so much of the salary cap in bringing Iestyn Harris in.
When Jon Dorahy was at Wire, he seemed to be searching for a Henry Paul for us. He brought two young New Zealanders over: Toa Kohe-Love and Nigel Vagana, who were both billed as "the next Henry Paul" when we signed them. They both ended up being good players although centres rather than the stand-offs they were talked of as when we signed them. I think NV played stand-off in the game after Dorahy had been sacked when we beat Wigan (he got a hat-trick).
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| one of the most naturally gifted players i've ever seen, remember being at central park on a cold wednesday night and he murdered us on his own for wakefield, you could see then how good he was at 19
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "On Henry Paul....how good do you think he was, really?
I have never made my mind up on whether he was just very good (eg Robbie) or absolute world class.
He had a bit of Cristiano Ronaldo about him, in that he wasn't just content to be a ball playing talent, but developed a rock solid physique, made sure there weren't really any flaws in his game. He also had that swaggering arrogance.
Was his departure for Bradford the key factor that tipped the balance away from Wigan to Bradford over the next few years?
It seemed to weaken Wigan a lot when HP left, but Bradford seemed to take it in their stride when he left them. Maybe the way they were winning games meant that they were less reliant on a great 6. And also was why it was a bad business decision for them a few years later to tie so much of the salary cap in bringing Iestyn Harris in.
When Jon Dorahy was at Wire, he seemed to be searching for a Henry Paul for us. He brought two young New Zealanders over
I think Henry Paul was at his best when he first joined Wigan. He was like a ghost moving across the field and he scored his best tries in those first couple of seasons. In his last couple of years he seemed to lose a bit of spark, still a great player but not quite as dangerous. Then he joined Bradford and seemed to recapture his form.
I have fond memories of Paul always scoring tries against Saints, usually ones that sealed the game for us. He could be very quiet in a game and then just step forward and ghost through the defence.
He was certainly the most stylish player ive ever watched. Almost everytime he took the ball to the line he looked to spin out of the tackle. His balance was superb, almost like he was floating in zero gravity at times.
He was world class but not in an orthodox way. He had a unique style and way of playing the game that ive not seen before or since.
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| Quote: Pieman "one of the most naturally gifted players i've ever seen, remember being at central park on a cold wednesday night and he murdered us on his own for wakefield, you could see then how good he was at 19'"
Correct, a outstanding talented player just like his brother Robbie.
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