Didn’t think you would somehow.

Shaun Edwards
Bobbie Goulding
Mike Ford
Andy Gregory
Iestyn Harris
Tony Smith
Deryck Fox
There, can't be bothered doing anymore, Any of those players at their best would boss it in the super evolved modern era super league
IN MY OPINION

No need to be so surly.

You seem to want to over complicate the matter again.

Just because most teams have adopted this boring 'stick to the script' approach does not mean it is now the only way all teams must play. Its junk thinking and narrow minded. What confused players years ago will still confuse them today. If there are 4 players running at you all at different angles and each one is in a position to receive the ball then it is still as confusing as it was 30 years ago. You seem to think that todays players are all AI controlled and can think faster than they did 30 years ago.

To move the game on you have to break from the mould. Good coaches are not afraid to try something different and evolve. Saints did it last year and played much looser and more like a 90's team under Holbrook and they had a superb season bar the CC final in which they just had an off day. Indeed, under Madge, we too played more like a 90's team and ran set plays when the time was right. Im not saying throw the whole modern game out of the window and play entirely like a team from 30 years ago, im saying merge the best bits from 30 years ago with todays game.

You growl at the prospect of bringing Andy Gregory in to help but last year, how many times were we camped in the opposition 20 unable to score and not looking likely to score? We were crying out for a set play and didnt have one.

Don’t think any you listed are a patch on...

Thurston
Cronk
Lockyer
Pearce
Etc.

This is coming from someone who’s fav all time 7 is Andy Greg.

I think people are easily mislead. The game has moved on. It’s so much faster, bigger bodies playing at such a pace. Decision time is way less; the ‘run around’ and other individual plays no longer work against such players.

Thesedays our halfbacks are as big as forwards from the 80s and have way more skills. For example Mitchell Pearce, a 7 is actually bigger than his father who represented Aus as a forward.

If you transported a young Andy Greg in a time machine to 2019; he’d be creamed and stopped in his tracks before he could try a run around.

Sport evolves, as each team, league strives for success and an edge over their opposition.

Who cares, Jesus, Why can't you get your head round the fact we are talking about the state of Super League the frigging NRL has naff all to do with it

You have raised a fair point there IMO. A very good post but for the last paragraph. I get the nostalgia and the thinking behind it but in reality he’s been out of the professional game for a long time. I just don’t get this desire to bring back players of old to coach because they were half decent (in the case of Gregory he was far more than half decent and likewise to LSOW he was my favourite 7 too), the game has changed, they’ve been out the pro game for far too long to be effective IMO.

We’re talking about the quality of RL today versus yesteryear. That’s the whole point to my last post. If you don’t like my posts feel free to Ignore them.

Whereas I like your posts. They’re funny.

Over complicated, daft and now surly.
I'll let you crack on, go and get Greg and I'm sure adrian Lam will love having him involved. We can always go and get Gary Schofield as well?

PS
If you think Madges rugby was off the cuff then I suspect you may be trying to shoehorn something into fit into your argument.
Madges team were so good because they were far more organised, structured, stronger, fitter etc. They then used those advantageous and played off the back of it.
If you think they sat down and watched a few videos of the old days and then just copied then then your in a stranger world than I thought. There were "Moves", and tactics Madge employed allowed Roberts/Tomkins to play off the back of it when the time was right.
If they werent so dominant in the other areas of the game they wouldn't have been able to do that.
That's what this team is missing, the dominance and structure in lots of other areas in the game to demoralised the opposition.
The attacking part of the game.will improve off the back of that.
But if you dont tackle well, defend well, kick well, hold onto the ball well, run harder and stronger than the opposition then you'll find trying to play rugby under the backdrop of that is far far harder.

I have been Christmas grocery shopping all day in Barrow, I apologise for any saltyness

Enjoy your Xmas mate. And let’s hope for a good 2020 in cherry and white

Show me where i said Madges team played off the cuff. I didnt, you are trying to put words into my mouth. I said they ran set moves. Whether or not it was around Roberts or Tomkins makes no difference, they had set plays which involved various ways of confusing defenders and creating openings rather than this single idea of swinging the ball left to right along the line.



I have never said dont have structure and dont try to dominate the opposition with the basics. I have merely argued for some entertaining set plays and more variety to our attack at the right times. The easy way to do that is look at some of the stuff teams of the past used to play and shoehorn them in to the modern game. Since Andy Gregory was a master at pulling off set plays then it would be a good idea to have him try to recreate some of them with the current team which they could then use when we are stuck on the opposition line and the usual left/right ball swinging is not working. You seem to be comparing apples and oranges and coming up with bananas. Your argument seems to be that nothing will work other than what we are doing now because most teams play the same way.