I disagree. Ive been watching a lot of old games recently and the PTB was very slow most of the time. Holding down was far more tolerated back then. In fact, a defender would have to go to sleep on the attacker for the ref to blow for a penalty. The RFL tried to clean this area up and made it worse IMO. Now you have 26 dive machines throwing themselves on the floor milking penalties. Very ugly to watch. Id rather have more holding down with the attacking player fighting to get up rather than fighting to stay down.

I can’t remember that try, whether it’s down to Christmas Day alcohol consumption or not is up in the air. So for my benefit can you jog my memory?

His reply to your reply saying my post doesn't warrant a reply doesn't deserve a reply.
Reason
Any reply to his reply would only be continuing the replies and perpetuating the same debate.
I'll leave everyone to reply with their own replies to decide of it is game set and match or if your replies decide that we need more replies then we could reply some more and it would be kind of a replay which is a reply with the "a" missing.

Anyway

Xmas day Fish fingers was lovely (why change just because its xmas day, its worked for the last 51 weeks)
Santa brought me a new A to Z so I can continue to drive my Model T Ford around the back streets of Wigan

Best set move EVER.

Attacking scrum 25 yards from opposition try line, 20 yards in from right hand touchline

Scrum half passes ball to stand off (David Bolton) and he passes it on to right centre (Eric Ashton) then goes around Ashton to take the return pass.
Opposition chase Bolton, BUT Ashton doesn't give him the ball.
Billy Boston comes flying in from the wing from around 35 yards out, Boston arrives at the perfect time just inside Ashton, receives a supremely timed short ball and scores close to the posts.

That move was used a few times once for Great Britain and Murphy was the scrum (he's no idea what was happening) Eventually opposition teams got wise, but it was brilliant to watch.

Sadly things like that couldn't be used today, there is far too much video analysis.

I remember a great move by Wire from scrum against Wigan in Lancs Cup final at Knowsley Road. Andy Gregory to fullback I think it was Johnson. Also remember the game for the much anticipated Gary Helmsley Smith playing made one run sideways and that was all I remember of his career