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| Quote: Jukesays "Who says they "Need" more substitutes?
Thems just the rules
If we changed the rules to No substitutes thebplayets would adapt to that and have to pace themselves to those rules.
Simple fact is
Zero substitutions
10 substitutions
8 substitutions
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6 substitutions (which is what I would go for)
Playing under any of the above the teams of today would murder the teams of yesteryear.
That's not to decry the players of yesteryear, quite the opposite, it's just tou can only be The player you were/are in the era you played in.
The players of yesteryear would have adapted etx in their own ways, and some would have made it and been a great today, some wouldn't.
And same could be said about players of today being transported back in time.
Some would adapt to the old ways, some wouldn't.
But the players of today are far far bigger, fitter, stronger etc etc as a whole that they were. They are also far more tactically amd technically astute as a whole than they were.
Going back and picking up recordings of moves that gregory/Edward's, Henry Paul/Connolly etc. etc did 20/30 years ago and think it would make us better now is as unrealistic as getting an Alex Murphy/Doug Laughton or whoever into coach us as they were great coaches, they were, in THEIR ERA.
Like it or not, if it were possible to physically lift the team of 1987/1995 up and drop them into today (and I am sure enforcer will tell me that if I think outside of the box then it could be possible) they would get beaten comfortably due to the advances in all the areas mentioned above.
That doesn't mean I think Tommy is a better scrum half than Greg or gildart is a better centre than gene miles or flower better than Platt. It's just the evolution of physical/tactical and technical abilities.
If the players of yesteryear had these benefits then they would undoubtedly be better than their current counterparts, but they didn't and the game has advanced so much (and not necessarily all of these are for the better).'"
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| Quote: JonnyBroad "That try should have been disallowed, not because it was off the cuff but because it broke the laws of the game. Very surprised if a man with as much knowledge as you didn’t already know that though.'"
I can’t remember that try, whether it’s down to Christmas Day alcohol consumption or not is up in the air. So for my benefit can you jog my memory?  |
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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock
"I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count"
[quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote]
Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!"
I thanked him and went on my Merry way!
RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015!
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| Quote: Grimmy "Game, set and match.'"
His reply to your reply saying my post doesn't warrant a reply doesn't deserve a reply.
Reason
Any reply to his reply would only be continuing the replies and perpetuating the same debate.
I'll leave everyone to reply with their own replies to decide of it is game set and match or if your replies decide that we need more replies then we could reply some more and it would be kind of a replay which is a reply with the "a" missing.
Anyway
Xmas day Fish fingers was lovely (why change just because its xmas day, its worked for the last 51 weeks)
Santa brought me a new A to Z so I can continue to drive my Model T Ford around the back streets of Wigan |
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "I can’t remember that try, whether it’s down to Christmas Day alcohol consumption or not is up in the air. So for my benefit can you jog my memory? ![]()
Fages has to retire to the back of the scrum before being involved in play. Not something any issue was made about it at the time, probably because despite all the years he has been involved Stuart Cummings still doesn’t know the rules. They didn’t win sl because of that though they wont it because there structure was far mor solid than anyone else throughout the season. It pains me but you can only give them credit for that. We will be back with a bounce this year and ready for them.
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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Best set move EVER.
Attacking scrum 25 yards from opposition try line, 20 yards in from right hand touchline
Scrum half passes ball to stand off (David Bolton) and he passes it on to right centre (Eric Ashton) then goes around Ashton to take the return pass.
Opposition chase Bolton, BUT Ashton doesn't give him the ball.
Billy Boston comes flying in from the wing from around 35 yards out, Boston arrives at the perfect time just inside Ashton, receives a supremely timed short ball and scores close to the posts.
That move was used a few times once for Great Britain and Murphy was the scrum (he's no idea what was happening) Eventually opposition teams got wise, but it was brilliant to watch.
Sadly things like that couldn't be used today, there is far too much video analysis.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Best set move EVER.
Attacking scrum 25 yards from opposition try line, 20 yards in from right hand touchline
Scrum half passes ball to stand off (David Bolton) and he passes it on to right centre (Eric Ashton) then goes around Ashton to take the return pass.
Opposition chase Bolton, BUT Ashton doesn't give him the ball.
Billy Boston comes flying in from the wing from around 35 yards out, Boston arrives at the perfect time just inside Ashton, receives a supremely timed short ball and scores close to the posts.
That move was used a few times once for Great Britain and Murphy was the scrum (he's no idea what was happening) Eventually opposition teams got wise, but it was brilliant to watch.
Sadly things like that couldn't be used today, there is far too much video analysis.'"
I remember a great move by Wire from scrum against Wigan in Lancs Cup final at Knowsley Road. Andy Gregory to fullback I think it was Johnson. Also remember the game for the much anticipated Gary Helmsley Smith playing made one run sideways and that was all I remember of his career |
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