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Quote: 100% Warrior "It is the same game in essence only and I disagree with your whole point. The game has evolved from 80’s/90’s/00’s - like all sports have. Our players are all full time (in SL and NRL anyway) which means they’re training anywhere from 6-8 times a week, possibly more. That means fitness levels will naturally increase in both cardiovascular and muscular fitness. That in its own evolved the game from a “few pints and pick of smokes after a game” to diet control and fitness control to try and ensure that when the 17 takes the field they are doing so in prime physical condition.

Moving away from fitness, the other side effect of training as often as they do is that tackle technique and offensive drills are developed into more complex and skilful aspects of the game. The tackle wrestle you rightly refer to has bits from RU and wrestling and is designed to slow down the oppositions play by controlling the ruck. Control the ruck, you control the speed of the game. Control the speed of the game and you put yourself in a position that it’s very difficult to be beaten. It may look simple but I assure you it’s far deeper that a tackle technique.

I get the yearning for yesteryear. Nostxx xalgia is a fantastic feeling but the game has changed and moved on from 30/40yrs ago. If the sport wants to move forward globally and nationally we need to look forward, not look back constantly saying “back in my day” or words to that effect.'"

I think that the biggest change has been that all teams are over coached to the point that players are robotic with little if any room for individual play which leads to dour games.
Also for the number of interchanges has led to forward dominated thinking with again resulting poor quality games. For me once a player goes off he shouldn't be allowed to return which would rid the game of 15 minute "impact" players who more often than not are players who are way above their natural weight and find long minutes almost impossible.

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Quote: JonnyBroad "That try should have been disallowed, not because it was off the cuff but because it broke the laws of the game. Very surprised if a man with as much knowledge as you didn’t already know that though.'"


I can’t remember that try, whether it’s down to Christmas Day alcohol consumption or not is up in the air. So for my benefit can you jog my memory? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Grimmy "Game, set and match.'"


His reply to your reply saying my post doesn't warrant a reply doesn't deserve a reply.
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Any reply to his reply would only be continuing the replies and perpetuating the same debate.
I'll leave everyone to reply with their own replies to decide of it is game set and match or if your replies decide that we need more replies then we could reply some more and it would be kind of a replay which is a reply with the "a" missing.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "I can’t remember that try, whether it’s down to Christmas Day alcohol consumption or not is up in the air. So for my benefit can you jog my memory?
Fages has to retire to the back of the scrum before being involved in play. Not something any issue was made about it at the time, probably because despite all the years he has been involved Stuart Cummings still doesn’t know the rules. They didn’t win sl because of that though they wont it because there structure was far mor solid than anyone else throughout the season. It pains me but you can only give them credit for that. We will be back with a bounce this year and ready for them.

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Best set move EVER.

Attacking scrum 25 yards from opposition try line, 20 yards in from right hand touchline

Scrum half passes ball to stand off (David Bolton) and he passes it on to right centre (Eric Ashton) then goes around Ashton to take the return pass.
Opposition chase Bolton, BUT Ashton doesn't give him the ball.
Billy Boston comes flying in from the wing from around 35 yards out, Boston arrives at the perfect time just inside Ashton, receives a supremely timed short ball and scores close to the posts.

That move was used a few times once for Great Britain and Murphy was the scrum (he's no idea what was happening) Eventually opposition teams got wise, but it was brilliant to watch.

Sadly things like that couldn't be used today, there is far too much video analysis.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Best set move EVER.

Attacking scrum 25 yards from opposition try line, 20 yards in from right hand touchline

Scrum half passes ball to stand off (David Bolton) and he passes it on to right centre (Eric Ashton) then goes around Ashton to take the return pass.
Opposition chase Bolton, BUT Ashton doesn't give him the ball.
Billy Boston comes flying in from the wing from around 35 yards out, Boston arrives at the perfect time just inside Ashton, receives a supremely timed short ball and scores close to the posts.

That move was used a few times once for Great Britain and Murphy was the scrum (he's no idea what was happening) Eventually opposition teams got wise, but it was brilliant to watch.

Sadly things like that couldn't be used today, there is far too much video analysis.'"


I remember a great move by Wire from scrum against Wigan in Lancs Cup final at Knowsley Road. Andy Gregory to fullback I think it was Johnson. Also remember the game for the much anticipated Gary Helmsley Smith playing made one run sideways and that was all I remember of his career

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