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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Lam seems to have signed French without a plan or designated position for him; which isn’t good; especially when there’s still holes in the team which need players; namely a play making half.
We have Hardaker at fb. I’ve pointed out my concerns with Zak, but he’s our FB.
The idea of playing French at 6 running off Hastings could work. But let’s be honest it’s a massive risk to take. Especially when Lam already confirmed he doesn’t know where to play French which suggests the idea of pairing French off Hastings wasn’t his plan from the get-go.
French was tried at 6 as a playmaker at the end of last season; it didn’t work at all. Furthermore it doesn’t play to French’s strengths as a player; another flag regarding Lams coaching.
I honestly don’t think Lam knows what he’s doing. Nothing from last season or what I’ve heard about his plans for 2020 make me think otherwise.'"
I don't think it's fair to write him off at 6, he was being asked to lead an underperforming team around after being at the club for a matter of weeks.
Although I to share your doubts of Lam. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt as I feel he was somewhat dealt a dud hand. However my takes from post game interviews and his general ora is not one of a true leader. Prove me wrong Lammy.
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| Quote ArcticGorilla="ArcticGorilla"I don't think it's fair to write him off at 6, he was being asked to lead an underperforming team around after being at the club for a matter of weeks.
Although I to share your doubts of Lam. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt as I feel he was somewhat dealt a dud hand. However my takes from post game interviews and his general ora is not one of a true leader. Prove me wrong Lammy.'"
I’m not writing him off. I’m sticking to facts...
-French isn’t a playmaker. Never has been. So to play him as a first receiver pivot wasn’t fair on him.
-Asking French to play as a second receiver 6 off Hastings in a system the team hasn’t play in for decades is a big ask. Surely anyone can see that.
-honest to god. Another poster claiming Lam inherited a dud hand when in reality he inherited a team of current and past internationals with a wealth of experience in big games. Many of which have already won major silverware in SL.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I’m not writing him off. I’m sticking to facts...
-French isn’t a playmaker. Never has been. So to play him as a first receiver pivot wasn’t fair on him.
-Asking French to play as a second receiver 6 off Hastings in a system the team hasn’t play in for decades is a big ask. Surely anyone can see that.
-honest to god. Another poster claiming Lam inherited a dud hand when in reality he inherited a team of current and past internationals with a wealth of experience in big games. Many of which have already won major silverware in SL.'"
Jeeees! So Hardaker's passed it, Our new signings are underwhelming, French doesn't have a position and Lam should be sacked.
Do you at least like the new kit?
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| Quote ArcticGorilla="ArcticGorilla"Jeeees! So Hardaker's passed it, Our new signings are underwhelming, French doesn't have a position and Lam should be sacked.
Do you at least like the new kit?'"
I actually do
I hope I'm wrong, but sometimes, even on here, you have to be honest.
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| I wish some people would see last season for what it was. We had a new (interim) coach coming in after years under the same regime. We had more off field issues than most club have in a decade. We had an unbelievably bad run of injuries.
Despite all that, we were able to unearth a few gems from the reserves, finish 2nd in the league and were 80 minutes away from a grand final. We’ve signed the current man of steel and a very experienced NRL / International prop who adds a huge amount of size to our pack. We’ve also signed in positions where we needed to strengthen.
Our season wasn’t great, but I’m prepared to accept that there were mitigating factors and I can’t wait for next season to start. I also quite like the new kit but I’m just a happy clapper!
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| Lam may be saying he’s not sure where players will play but there’s no doubt he’ll have a fair idea. I doubt he’ll just throw 17 names up in the air come Wire and run with the order he picks them up in. The guy isn’t going to want to publicly state his teams nailed down and put a pin in 15 other lads hopes of a place in the Wire game. He’s said already he is aware of the vast majority of his team but has said a couple of places are open. That is surely good management? Dangle that carrot to them all to go and rip it up in pre season. There’s guys like Jack Wells, Navarette, Harry Smith etc who currently you’d think may sit outside Lams team for that first game but if they smash it in the friendlies then things can change.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Lam may be saying he’s not sure where players will play but there’s no doubt he’ll have a fair idea. I doubt he’ll just throw 17 names up in the air come Wire and run with the order he picks them up in. The guy isn’t going to want to publicly state his teams nailed down and put a pin in 15 other lads hopes of a place in the Wire game. He’s said already he is aware of the vast majority of his team but has said a couple of places are open. That is surely good management? Dangle that carrot to them all to go and rip it up in pre season. There’s guys like Jack Wells, Navarette, Harry Smith etc who currently you’d think may sit outside Lams team for that first game but if they smash it in the friendlies then things can change.'"
I don't think anyone, and not me, are saying it's '17 names up in the air' that's a massive extreme, but he did state he doesn't know where to play a new signing.
Again, no ones saying about having a time nailed down, but knowing your starting halves/fb again is different.
And not knowing where key signings/positions play isn't good management.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I don't think anyone, and not me, are saying it's '17 names up in the air' that's a massive extreme, but he did state he doesn't know where to play a new signing.
Again, no ones saying about having a time nailed down, but knowing your starting halves/fb again is different.
And not knowing where key signings/positions play isn't good management.'"
Agree with all of that.
If we don't know where to play him why sign him? Conversations surely took place at the club when we targeted his signature unless we took the word of agent on how good he was.
French could be a sensational signing let's hope we don't make a mess of it by not giving the guy a significant role at the club and be an 80 minute player rather than a cameo role to cover tiredness and a final play of the dice when plan A hasn't worked.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Agree with all of that.
If we don't know where to play him why sign him? Conversations surely took place at the club when we targeted his signature unless we took the word of agent on how good he was.
French could be a sensational signing let's hope we don't make a mess of it by not giving the guy a significant role at the club and be an 80 minute player rather than a cameo role to cover tiredness and a final play of the dice when plan A hasn't worked.'"
Exactly. Why sign a player if you don’t know what to do with him? We don’t have that luxury; we’re salary capped. Especially when we’re crying out for a play maker.
Was he signed as a FB? Probably not. We have Hardaker and other players who can cover. Not including youngsters coming through.
Was he signed as a winger? Doubt it. At the time of his signing we had an abundance; Davies, Marshall, Burgess, Manfredi plus others who can cover.
So, especially considering he’s squad number, he’s been signed as a half.
So...this either means he’s now expected to be a playmaker (which didn’t look like a good option from the back end of last season) or that Lam is literally going to change the way the entire team plays to compensate French as a strike 6 playing as a second pivot off Hastings.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Exactly. Why sign a player if you don’t know what to do with him? We don’t have that luxury; we’re salary capped. Especially when we’re crying out for a play maker.
Was he signed as a FB? Probably not. We have Hardaker and other players who can cover. Not including youngsters coming through.
Was he signed as a winger? Doubt it. At the time of his signing we had an abundance; Davies, Marshall, Burgess, Manfredi plus others who can cover.
So, especially considering he’s squad number, he’s been signed as a half.
So...this either means he’s now expected to be a playmaker (which didn’t look like a good option from the back end of last season) or that Lam is literally going to change the way the entire team plays to compensate French as a strike 6 playing as a second pivot off Hastings.'"
Again I have to agree with you,I don’t think anyone doubts he has pace to burn but as a signing it didn’t make sense back in the summer nor now unless it is to play in the halves,which really he didn’t look that comfortable in that position,but it’s unfair to judge him to harshly.
Given the cover the club had in the wings surely if a player was to be brought in it perhaps should have been a prop given that the side was a little light there rather than a player that doesn’t seem to fit anywhere.
As I say an odd signing but as ever I hope he settles into whatever role Lam has planned for him
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| With French being given the 6 shirt then that does suggest he'll p[lay there. I'm not bothered about what happened last season when he went to 6 as that was after a team injury when players were swapped around.
French has a full pre season although Hastings won't return until the new year or so.
With our spine of the team being - Hardaker, French, Hastings, O'Loughlin & Powell then I do think there's a very good balance between ball players, strike players and high workrate players.
Lam has to get this right. He will leave himself options but a winning team is essential for Lam given the quality and cost of this squad.
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