Correct, he's had one good game that I can recall this year and that was Salford away. Last year he was in a much better team and the forwards he had along side him meant he didn't have to work hard as much. He was a luxury signing last year and now that we've lost a couple of forwards since I don't think he's as essential to the team as other players are. He runs a couple of good lines but even they've become rare, I feel he's very lazy in defence ( See Saints away first game of the season when he goes in to hiding on a defensive set on our own line it's one of the many reasons Saints fans haven't been bothered by not re signing him. We missed a trick with not signing Josh Jones, Hull have done very well there. Isa and Farrell start in the second row every week for me, he's lucky if he can get a spot on the bench.

No problems for our centres:- they don't pass!!!!

I watched Greenwood closely on Saturday for England Knights, he was average at best.

My thoughts too.

Not 100% sure what your point is?

Has Isa for example been anything but average in a Wigan shirt? I'm sure you'll point out to a handful of games when he's done well, but you can easily do the same with Greenwood.

Greenwood, imo, has fallen into that category where everything he does is criticised by the fans. Sadly it's a common thing too - look at Marshall Vs Burgess, Marshall drops a ball and no one bats an eye, but if JB does the same then everyone is all over him. Tomkins had it when he was here, he'd pass the ball for a winger to run it back and get shot down, but yet he'd set 2 or 3 opportunities up in the same game. Compare that to everyone's darling in ZH who is all heart, but no brain.

Yes its a massive difference, your used to tackling in the main with the outside shoulder, so everything is opposite way around. Farrell started the season there and by his own admissions struggled there. Personally Greenwood would have to play there and not Farrell if Greenwood is still here. I hope Greenwood finds that spark to his game again but i have some doubts about him. Hope he proves me wrong next year.