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Quote: Phuzzy "For sure and I think what has happened at Leeds since is testament to that. Wigan's losses were far less severe but they were still losses (and a major one in Bateman who is showing himself to be genuine World class) and we're currently in second after a run of 10 wins in 11 games. That's got to count for something, especially given it's also been a season of upheaval, injury and player indiscipline resulting in the further loss of two front row forwards.

My take on it is it could have been far worse. The early form was 'Leeds like' in how dramatic a fall off it was but, unlike Leeds, Lam has been able to turn it around, something a multi title winning coach and an NRL import of similar standing to Lam were unable to do. I think it's fair to say we retained better personnel than Leeds, as you rightly point out, but injuries throughout the season have negated that to some extent. We've been without O'Loughlin, Farrell, Flower, Greenwood and Bullock for large parts of the season, lost Tautai and Hamlin completely and had Manfredi and Davies suffer season ending injuries.

Personally I think that all those losses when combined with the total non replacement of Bateman (or Tomkins) more than covers the loss of Sinfield, Peacock and Leuluai. Just my opinion though, of course.

I think Lam should be marked quite well for turning it around this season but should be judged on next when he'll be working with 'his' team.'"


I think we just have a different opinion on the season. Yes it could have been worse, but it could have also been better-way better. He didn't take over an under-performing team, he took over current champions, even with the departing players he inherited a worthy group...so that's by the by.

You make many valid points regarding injuries, we've had our fair share. However I look at overall performances, even now when we're heading towards the back 9 of the season we're still not playing well. I don't know if you saw anything of the Wakey game or the Wire game before the CC final, we're just not putting in excellent 80 min performances...while I'm more than happy to see how the season has turned around and now we're second (thank god) we're not seeing a team playing at a level which looks capable of winning the GF.
I don't think realistically anyone can say the performance v Wakey was a good one, we've had more bad performances than good this season, you can work through the fixtures, and I hate to say it, more absolute stinkers than amazing performances.

Considering this... I think a 6/10 overall is about right.

However... I do agree with your final comment, my verdict is 'this season so far'... I think next season, when Lam has had time and the introduction of new personnel, we could very much see a much better side.

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Quote: FearTheVee "This will sounds like sour grapes I fully acknowledge
I do actually see where you’re coming from. Big finals and big games are definitely refereed differently. But they’re also played differently too. Everything about these games is a world away from a run of the mill away trip to Hull KR for example. Thus the refereeing is, rightly or wrongly, bound to be different.

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The same argument is made about Origin games compared to ordinary NRL matches. And it's true there too.

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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... -cup-wigan
"Edwards said he decided not to take over at Wigan because he questioned his experience for the role. “It was very difficult and it is best not to say too much. I said Wigan needed a more experienced rugby league coach than me and I was right. They are doing well under Adrian Lam and I think they will win the Super League again this year.”
Interesting spin from all angles, how was he right saying experience was needed when Lam isn't experienced? How does he conclude Wigan will win under Lam this year ?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... -cup-wigan
"Edwards said he decided not to take over at Wigan because he questioned his experience for the role. “It was very difficult and it is best not to say too much. I said Wigan needed a more experienced rugby league coach than me and I was right. They are doing well under Adrian Lam and I think they will win the Super League again this year.”
Interesting spin from all angles, how was he right saying experience was needed when Lam isn't experienced? How does he conclude Wigan will win under Lam this year ?


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Quote: Mash Butty "https

Sounds like him trying to justify his cowardly cop out to himself.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "Sounds like him trying to justify his cowardly cop out to himself.'"

Nail hit firmly on head there!

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