Penalty machine, I wouldn't have him in

You are slating some of the best props in the league yet you were stating how good Greg Burke is !

No i didn't. Don't make bull up. I said Burke had good hands, So what?

Ben Flower made a comment to somebody in earshot of me about the coach Adrian Lam that was in very bad taste and completely un-professional trying to raise a laugh. So you and bigredwarrior can get down off your high horses.

What exactly does he do that is so good on the pitch? very, very average. There are about 30 Ben Flower's knocking about. Barely plays either. Not enough contribution. You rate him if you want. I don't. That is my opinion and nobody can tell me otherwise.

Typical of the hysteria that goes in our sport in my opinion you say a couple of good games and hes a cert for GB?



Good,solid workmanlike player is philbin nothing more, still time for him of course but as you say GB nowhere near yet.

As a wire fan I love Philbin(he should be proud he has his own thread on Wigan's forum!), but he isn't GB class yet. Hopefully in a few years if he keeps up his improvement.

The best impact player we’ve had for a while at the Wire, he’s improved steadily over the course of the last two seasons and it’s great to see a local lad doing so well. He punches holes in the line, has remarkable footwork and majority of the time gets a very quick play the ball. It wouldn’t surprise me too see him in the GB squad at the end of the season IF his form continues, alongside the likes of Ratchford, Clarke, Hill et al.

Someone said that we miss Flower when he doesn't play. That is undoubtedly true. What is also true is that it happens far too often.

Lockers may have earned his 'now and then' status. But Ben hasn't.

We need props whose bodies are up to the rigours of the game.

So you wouldn't have Jackson Hastings in either?

Flower is a good prop. He makes yards after impact and when he doesn’t, most of the time he’ll land on his belly to make a quick play the ball. He doesn’t take a backward step and is a good tackler. Not every player are going to be awesome, or we’d have noooo salary space. I think as a prop, he does well and what he’s employed to do - WHEN HE PLAYS!

No he's not British.