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| Lot of talk on here about wingers but lets be honest, they are hardly the problem here.
1. No organising scrum half,
2. No props at all - thus negating the need for 1 really (unless we're signing a vintage Andrew Johns),
3. Centres are undersized,
4. Hooker isnt providing any attacking value other than passing the ball off the ground.
The big problem for Wigan is physicality, as I see it. The entire pack, bar Greeenwood and Lockers, is undersized, as are our starting centres. The last time we had a truly undersized front row was c. 2003/2004 when Faz was playing prop, and you know what - we played tactics to maximise our chances. We didnt try and 'mix it up the middle' as we had no muscle, we took the ball out wide regularly and ran the opposition ragged. It seems we arent smart enough to see this currently.
Top to tail, there are a number of issues with Wigan and it all boils down to being cheap in the market:
1. Hardaker
2. Davies
3. Gildart
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6. Williams
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11. Greenwood
12. Farrell
13. O'Loughlin
14. Leuluai
15. Bullock
16. A.N. Other Impact-making prop
17. A.N. Other Impact-making second rower
Get rid of: Isa, Tautai, Navarette, Sammut, Sarginson, Clubb (retiring?), Hamlin, Joe Burgess,
Fine backups/depth: Escare, Powell, Marshall, Hankinson, The kids (i.e. Jack Wells, Paisley, etc).
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| Quote Kernel="Kernel"Lot of talk on here about wingers but lets be honest, they are hardly the problem here.
1. No organising scrum half,
2. No props at all - thus negating the need for 1 really (unless we're signing a vintage Andrew Johns),
3. Centres are undersized,
4. Hooker isnt providing any attacking value other than passing the ball off the ground.
The big problem for Wigan is physicality, as I see it. The entire pack, bar Greeenwood and Lockers, is undersized, as are our starting centres. The last time we had a truly undersized front row was c. 2003/2004 when Faz was playing prop, and you know what - we played tactics to maximise our chances. We didnt try and 'mix it up the middle' as we had no muscle, we took the ball out wide regularly and ran the opposition ragged. It seems we arent smart enough to see this currently.
Top to tail, there are a number of issues with Wigan and it all boils down to being cheap in the market:
1. Hardaker
2. Davies
3. Gildart
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5. Manfredi
6. Williams
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10. Flower
11. Greenwood
12. Farrell
13. O'Loughlin
14. Leuluai
15. Bullock
16. A.N. Other Impact-making prop
17. A.N. Other Impact-making second rower
Get rid of: Isa, Tautai, Navarette, Sammut, Sarginson, Clubb (retiring?), Hamlin, Joe Burgess,
Fine backups/depth: Escare, Powell, Marshall, Hankinson, The kids (i.e. Jack Wells, Paisley, etc).'"
It’s a shame the Burgess at centre experiment didn’t work out. Has the size and pace we need but get the impression it’s just not for him.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Greg Eden signed for the Brisbane Broncos.'"
Fair enough. I stand corrected on that.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Fair enough. I stand corrected on that.'"
Said the man in the orthopedic shoes
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| Quote The Whiffy Kipper="The Whiffy Kipper"Said the man in the orthopedic shoes'"
I’ll get your coat 
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| Quote hatty="hatty"I’ll get your coat
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"From what I can gather Josh wanted to try his hand at Union after a very successful early stint in league. He went, but when he was looking to come back there was no room at then inn for Josh at Wigan. I was sad to see him sign for Wire, I know we didn't come in for him even though Wigan was Josh's first choice at the time.
I even thought Josh could be moved into the centres.
If we would have signed him on his return from Union, he would have got into our team each week without doubt.'"
Utter poppycock.
He never wanted to comeback to league. Wire chased him to revert more than once.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Utter poppycock.
He never wanted to comeback to league. Wire chased him to revert more than once.'"
Poppycock?
Actually he was dying to come back to league, couldn't get in at Sale. Stuck it out for as long as he could until he come to the conclusion that it wasn't happening. So then he took up the offer from Wire.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Poppycock?
Actually he was dying to come back to league, couldn't get in at Sale. Stuck it out for as long as he could until he come to the conclusion that it wasn't happening. So then he took up the offer from Wire.'"
Anyone who has a absolutely zero link to the lad but could work a couple of social network sites in recent years could see he was desperate to come back (not that I blame him).
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| Quote WARRIOR5="WARRIOR5"It’s a shame the Burgess at centre experiment didn’t work out. Has the size and pace we need but get the impression it’s just not for him.'"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Burgess filled in at centre wasn't it generally on the left? One of his best skills as a winger is his ability to deliver a good left to right pass back into the hands of the centre, second row or stand off. I'm pretty sure we scored quite a few tries where Williams would put Burgess through and Burgess would then lay a well timed pass back to Williams, Faz or Gildart to finish the move. If he played at right centre he might be a little bit more comfortable when attacking (but whether he could defend as well on the right is another matter).
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| From my limited chances to seeing both Davis and Marshall play I've always thought Marshall looked the better try scorer which would be my primary requisite for a winger.
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