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Quote: jonh "Firstly I will say I have a huge amount of respect for IL and what he has done for the club. The turnaround from when he took over to where we are now is nothing short of miraculous.

We cannot let a poor start to the season and this issue cloud our judgement on what he has brought to the club.

I do however get the feeling that he or someone at the club attempts to spin stitustions with a view of taking a negative and turning it into either a positive or moreover an attempt to soften the blow in an attempt to reduce the impact of revenue streams into the club, such as merchandise and attendance figures.

I think this is a somewhat short sighted policy. We as fans cannot and should not expect to know the ins and outs of what goes on at the club, however I’m of the opinion it is much better to rip the plaster off rather than peel it off slowly. People will get over things much quicker than having these now almost regular on going sagas when players leave of their future return or trying to outsmart the cap etc.

Basically deal with the issue and move on, if certain clauses are in players contracts for a potential return don’t publicise them as you are just creating expectation and storing problems for the future.

I don’t know who is accountable for some of the spin that we try to put on things and I’m not pointing the finger. What I do think however is that a World Class administrator should be running our club on a day to day basis. Rads due to his lack of experience in such a role really doesn’t fill me with confidence. That may be harsh but I just don’t see without experience elsewhere and understanding how other clubs run in our game and other sports he can I still a best practice culture as a top administrator.'"




Best thing we can do is simply stick to facts to the best of our ability, as a min review:

Positives:

Edwards-been announced as a coach from 2020, not the most welcoming dialogue from him, but from a factual standpoint he's still coming, this is a major signing.

We can only judge these at the time of signing or as of now:

Recent Signings:

GREEN/AMBER/RED

Greenwood (V happy with) GREEN
Hardaker (Happy with as a player, however there's a reason why we signed him) AMBER
Bullock (looks positive but untested in top flight competition AMBER
Hankinson used salary cap as cover, was this a good move? AMBER
Sammut; 31 going on 32 fallen short at SL level to date with lower standard clubs, was looking for a regular job after leaving London RED

Issues:

Bateman- claimed to be coming back to Wigan after 2 seasons in the NRL. Not accurate from the club. RED


Other information to consider, in ILs time we've seen a number of top players in their prime level our club for greener pastures.

TOMKINS NZW
TOMKINS CATS
TOMKINS (J) SARRIES
MOSSOP PARR
SARG GCT
BURGESS SYD
TOMMY NZW
SUTTON CAN
WILLIAMS?

Whilst under contract.

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Quote: P-J "All he's done is invest money into Wigan.

I can't fault him if he's no longer willing to do that and wants the club to be self sufficient. Attendances have dropped by 4k despite incredible success - why should he foot that bill?'"

Because we are a top flight sports club, The most famous and successful in the game, If he doesn't want to or can't afford to fund the club to the standard it deserves then he needs to bring in another big investor or sell up to somebody with the means to invest heavily in the club, or get used to more Featherstone standard signings

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Because we are a top flight sports club, The most famous and successful in the game, If he doesn't want to or can't afford to fund the club to the standard it deserves then he needs to bring in another big investor or sell up to somebody with the means to invest heavily in the club, or get used to more Featherstone standard signings'"


I agree. he'll only lose more money as fans stay away if we carry on like we have this season.

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Because we are a top flight sports club, The most famous and successful in the game, If he doesn't want to or can't afford to fund the club to the standard it deserves then he needs to bring in another big investor or sell up to somebody with the means to invest heavily in the club, or get used to more Featherstone standard signings'"


There are the accounts from 2017 back to the year dot! Have a look for yourself how much IL has funded the club over the last 10 or more years. Who do you think will come in when the we're still suffering from a large recession?

Yesterday for the first time in many years I walked through Wigan town and into The Galleries, it was depressing to see so many businesses closed.
If the Wigan moaners got up off their collective backsides from their armchairs and barstools to attend games then maybe you would have a point, but at present I don't blame IL, he's put his money in, it's time the Wigan public did the same.

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Because we are a top flight sports club, The most famous and successful in the game, If he doesn't want to or can't afford to fund the club to the standard it deserves then he needs to bring in another big investor or sell up to somebody with the means to invest heavily in the club, or get used to more Featherstone standard signings'"


There are the accounts from 2017 back to the year dot! Have a look for yourself how much IL has funded the club over the last 10 or more years. Who do you think will come in when the we're still suffering from a large recession?

Yesterday for the first time in many years I walked through Wigan town and into The Galleries, it was depressing to see so many businesses closed.
If the Wigan moaners got up off their collective backsides from their armchairs and barstools to attend games then maybe you would have a point, but at present I don't blame IL, he's put his money in, it's time the Wigan public did the same.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "There are the accounts from 2017 back to the year dot! Have a look for yourself how much IL has funded the club over the last 10 or more years. Who do you think will come in when the we're still suffering from a large recession?

Yesterday for the first time in many years I walked through Wigan town Centre and into The Galleries, it was depressing to see so many businesses closed.
If the Wigan moaners got up off their collective backsides from their armchairs and barstools to attend games then maybe you would have a point, but at present I don't blame IL, he's put his money in, it's time the Wigan public did the same.


Half way through writing a similar reply on a different thread accusing IFL of being Tight when I saw your post.

He's turned the Income of the club from 3million to 7.2million over the last 10/11 years
Whelan used to write approx. £1million a year off prior to that

Our costs on average now exceed our income by approx. 500k per year and that has to come from somewhere.
If IFL wants that to come out of his own pocket like it has done for the last 3-4 years then I'm over the moon
However if he's decided to reign it in a bit then that's his prerogative.

What is critical here is that the costs of the Players haven't gone down as such
Yes - signing Hardaker instead of Tomkins may have reduced the overall wage but it still has us at maximum salary cap.
How we have chosen to spread that salary cap in terms of squad size over quality may be debatable (I'm more than happy with how it's been spread and would never want to get back to 2005/6/7 days when 6/7 of our players took 2/3rds of the salary cap - A few injuries and Poop creek along with juniors going to other clubs as we don't invest in them).
I just don't buy into the "He's Tight" brigades argument.
That argument is totally aimed at IFL relating to the playing squad, so if were still spending up to maximum cap then the argument maybe should be about "How" he spends it, the choice of "Who" he's spent it on and not that he won't spend it?

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "There are the accounts from 2017 back to the year dot! Have a look for yourself how much IL has funded the club over the last 10 or more years. Who do you think will come in when the we're still suffering from a large recession?

Yesterday for the first time in many years I walked through Wigan town Centre and into The Galleries, it was depressing to see so many businesses closed.
If the Wigan moaners got up off their collective backsides from their armchairs and barstools to attend games then maybe you would have a point, but at present I don't blame IL, he's put his money in, it's time the Wigan public did the same.



wigan is a ghost town , IL can float wigan till the end of time but it wont fix the fundamentals that the RL has pretty much restricted the game with the cap.

I was a fan of the cap in the early days , but its served its purpose in creating steady/solvent clubs but its time for it to go .

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