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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"I don't think SO'L is carrying on next year, moving into coaching and last night my boss seemed to suggest Tommy is moving on. Source, Paul J. Should free up some serious cap space.'"
I'm sure Tommy as already said he's playing on next season.
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| Phil Wilkinson is saying Leuluai and Lockers are expected to play on. His record is very good when it comes to rumours.
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| Quote MOUSE13="MOUSE13"I'm sure Tommy as already said he's playing on next season.'"
I didn't say he was retiring buddy.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Phil Wilkinson is saying Leuluai and Lockers are expected to play on. His record is very good when it comes to rumours.'"
Not doubting him or his record, I am simply stating this may have changed in light of impending appointments.
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"Not doubting him or his record, I am simply stating this may have changed in light of impending appointments.'"
May well have done. He’d be one hell of a brave man (whoever he is) to show two experienced head like those the door (to another club or in to his coaching team) thoughgiven we’re losing some good quality players for 2019.
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| I reckon James Cunningham from London Broncos would be a great signing for any SL club
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| Quote The Eclipse="The Eclipse"I reckon James Cunningham from London Broncos would be a great signing for any SL club'"
I think he's a very good hooker, didn't start in Hulls academy and play junior international before moving to London?
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I’m glad we’ve now got more of a focus on the championship. With the ridiculous system we have in place currently meaning teams don’t need to field reserve teams, more and more lads will filter their way down to championship and league one clubs at 19/20 years of age. They may not have been quite good enough at that age to break through as a first team player but by 22/23 they could’ve come on leaps and bounds and he reasy to do a Chris Hill or an Alex Walmsley.'"
This is true and some would argue " lads will filter their way down to championship and league one clubs at 19/20 years of age" is an example of the system and salary cap working. I don't think it is. All Wigan and other clubs will do is release these players. I doubt that SL clubs have the time to spend trying to find clubs for players they will release and even if they did or the players found clubs themselves there is no guarantee the championship clubs have the resources to bring players on as well as SL sides especially as most are really part time. Players being released and ending up in championship clubs is not part of a well thought out master plan.
It bothers me that this "system" we have meaning no reserve grade probably means players are lost to the sport as a whole who might otherwise mature into really good players.
As to looking at the championship while we suffer with this system, I have no issues with that. Bullock looks the right sort of target player to me. He's not a total project player. He's 25 so is physically more mature for the position he plays in. If we had signed a 19 year ol prop who had potential I'd be skeptical as we have enough of those ourselves and there is no guarantee they will make it. This is why I was surprised we went for Hamlin. A singing like Bullock makes a lot more sense to me.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"This is true and some would argue " lads will filter their way down to championship and league one clubs at 19/20 years of age" is an example of the system and salary cap working. I don't think it is. All Wigan and other clubs will do is release these players. I doubt that SL clubs have the time to spend trying to find clubs for players they will release and even if they did or the players found clubs themselves there is no guarantee the championship clubs have the resources to bring players on as well as SL sides especially as most are really part time. Players being released and ending up in championship clubs is not part of a well thought out master plan.
It bothers me that this "system" we have meaning no reserve grade probably means players are lost to the sport as a whole who might otherwise mature into really good players.
As to looking at the championship while we suffer with this system, I have no issues with that. Bullock looks the right sort of target player to me. He's not a total project player. He's 25 so is physically more mature for the position he plays in. If we had signed a 19 year ol prop who had potential I'd be skeptical as we have enough of those ourselves and there is no guarantee they will make it. This is why I was surprised we went for Hamlin. A singing like Bullock makes a lot more sense to me.'"
I'd like to see SL clubs work with the NCL more. That's an open age competition of good standard where some sides are starting to struggle for numbers. Get reserves playing at NCL clubs and they are guaranteed a game, and it gives good NCL players a chance to get picked up later in their careers if they look good alongside SL reserve players. It would also help ensure players aren't lost to the game if they don't make it at SL level, as they would be more likely to carry on in the NCL. Aside from the obvious benefit of getting some top players, the NCL clubs would also benefit from the kudos of being associated with an SL club, which may help attract more people to play for them/watch their games.
Obviously it would need to be sensibly managed - e.g no more than 3 reserves per club, maybe restricted to the top two divisions of the NCL, but I think there's mileage in it
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I'd like to see SL clubs work with the NCL more. That's an open age competition of good standard where some sides are starting to struggle for numbers. Get reserves playing at NCL clubs and they are guaranteed a game, and it gives good NCL players a chance to get picked up later in their careers if they look good alongside SL reserve players. It would also help ensure players aren't lost to the game if they don't make it at SL level, as they would be more likely to carry on in the NCL. Aside from the obvious benefit of getting some top players, the NCL clubs would also benefit from the kudos of being associated with an SL club, which may help attract more people to play for them/watch their games.
Obviously it would need to be sensibly managed - e.g no more than 3 reserves per club, maybe restricted to the top two divisions of the NCL, but I think there's mileage in it'"
I don’t buy into that at all I’m afraid. I think it’d be a terrible idea meddling with the amateur game.
The only effective remedy is to make academy teams compulsory across SL with non compliance resulting in removal. Bring back the old u18s and u21’s systems so we can have proper youth development and still keep the loan option to Championship and L1 clubs.
Putting professionals in against blokes who train once maybe twice a week and play on a Saturday for the love of the game would ruin the NCL IMHO. Dropping players also to accommodate them would turn players off, it would have certainly vexed me if was still playing NCL and was dropped for what I would call a Billy Big B*llocks
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| The way I see it There’s only really 2 options.
1: All SL clubs have a reserve side.
2: NCL clubs become feeder teams in the same way the NRL works with no chance of promotion.
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