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He is a good player, don't get me wrong, but he's far more effective on the left than he is on the right. When he was shifted to the right to accommodate Wilkin he was completely ordinary, but on the left he ran good lines and was one of our better performers. With Farrell playing long minutes on the left, it may see Greenwood not reach the levels that some of you hope he can reach.

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George had an excellent game on Saturday. He troubled Hull on many occasions. I think the main weakness in his game is in choosing the wrong option too often. That's something he definitely needs to work on. I do feel, however, that this stems in part from the feeling that he needs to do it all himself. Maybe a more 'aware' game will come when he doesn't feel that is the case and that most definitely is a consequence of little coming from his half back partner. If you compare the stats of the two halves the disparity is a real eye opener.

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Does anyone remember how Edwards struggled 90/91 ish for around 6/9months?
The knives were out from a lot of fans and he too had occasion to step back inside, die with the ball etc. at times. Audible groans from the terraces when he touched the ball.
To be fair to Edwards he was coming back from that shocker of an injury at Wembley 90.
He was MOS the year before with 25+tries - in 90/91 he scored single figures tries wise in the league and struggled.

However - He was 24/25

We all know what happened next
40+ tries 91/92 - 40+ Tries 92/93 and more importantly became the organiser in chief that a lot of people remember.

Now in no way am I saying I expect George to do the same - However I do believe at 22/23 he needs time to develop, a little bit of patience.

As everything else people can interpret how they choose to - For me if George had left mid way through last year and gone to Wire or NRL there would have been knives out for IL.
We used the 2nd spot for George and for me it was definitely the right decision.

I'm a big fan I don't mind admitting - I don't think Post Marquee last year he was top of his game but I would suspect there are many other reasons that influenced that (Injuries/general poor form of the team) than just George.
As for this season - I thought he was pretty good up to Week after magic - been awful for 3 weeks and bounced back with a very good show last weekend.

What I can see though is there seems to be quite a few who since the Marquee suddenly expected Brett Kenny esque performances, Trent Barrett Mk2 etc.
Paying him the extra money doesn't guarantee that, what it does do is give us a chance that he may progress to that. Without it he would go and I wouldn't blame him one bit.
A lot have made their minds up, I've seen threads and I've spoken to people who've made their minds up - He will now be criticised for everything he does wrong and given no praise for anything he does well.
Some people would rather he fail than admit they were a Touch hasty.

I for one have thoroughly enjoyed watching the lad over the last 4 seasons - and I think he's been ok mostly this year bar 3/4 Bad games
I look forward to watching him a lot more moving forward.

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Quote: ]My suggestion was merely one of hindsight based on the fact he seems to have failed to cope with the pressure of being the starting 6 whereas had he gone to Oz I doubt he would have been and would have been eased into the game. In giving him so much money Wigan ruled itself out of affording having an experienced half back with Williams playing alongside of him or interchanging with. It was a gamble and at the moment it seems bad value for money. I don't know when his contract is up but when it is on current form he'd lose the marquee status and if that meant he left the club I doubt the club would put him back on a marquee contract to keep him.'"
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Your suggestion suggests we wasn’t the starting 6 before the wage increase. He was, he was also coping with the pressure of being the starting 6. The wage increase along with this marquee tag and fans expextation has added to that pressure. Imo the kid is trying too hard and needs to relax and play his game.

I don’t understand why you have such a downer on all things Wigan and look to criticise at every opportunity. Try glass half full for once, it’s much less stressful.
"My suggestion was merely one of hindsight based on the fact he seems to have failed to cope with the pressure of being the starting 6 whereas had he gone to Oz I doubt he would have been and would have been eased into the game. In giving him so much money Wigan ruled itself out of affording having an experienced half back with Williams playing alongside of him or interchanging with. It was a gamble and at the moment it seems bad value for money. I don't know when his contract is up but when it is on current form he'd lose the marquee status and if that meant he left the club I doubt the club would put him back on a marquee contract to keep him.'"
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Your suggestion suggests we wasn’t the starting 6 before the wage increase. He was, he was also coping with the pressure of being the starting 6. The wage increase along with this marquee tag and fans expextation has added to that pressure. Imo the kid is trying too hard and needs to relax and play his game.

I don’t understand why you have such a downer on all things Wigan and look to criticise at every opportunity. Try glass half full for once, it’s much less stressful.

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Quote: DaveO "See my previous post about the breakdown of the money. The bill IL must foot for players wages is IMO comparatively small given Sky pay all the £1.825m basic cap outlay. I do think we are overpaying some players but given we spend to the cap it's more likely to be the likes of Sarge, Isa, Powell and even players like Clubb and Flower who are not exactly SL's best props.

However I am not sure why you don't fault him for reigning in the purse strings whoever gets paid what. If he is having to do so it means either he isn't rich enough to bankroll the club (and let's face it you do not buy an RL club to make money) or the club can't raise enough revenue (including not enough from sponsorship) , or it's a combination of both. These issues fall at his feet and no one else's. If the club needs circa £2m to run a team and under his leadership it can't raise enough to pay that out, that is an issue he is responsible for. Lack of revenue.

Most clubs have more than one wealthy benefactor. More than one Saints director has according to their accounts "loaned" the club substantial sums of money so one thing IL could do is stop trying to run the club on his own and look for other directors willing to invest. Not a bad idea if he can find some who bring some expertise the club could benefit from. If he does not want to do that and wants to keep the club to himself but is no longer prepared to bankroll the club, then he needs to pull his finger out and increase the revenue and sponsorship.

I don't care where the money comes from but as a Wigan fan I expect the club to be able to pay top wages to attract the best players it can (which we all know isn't RL stars so I mean the best actually available to it) so if the chairman is having to reign in the purse strings given Sky pays most of the players wages anyway I have an issue with that.'"


I'm well aware of the Salary Cap breakdown.

As for the highlighted - we've lost 4k season ticket holders under Wane. Who's footing the bill for that lost revenue?

You have to cut your cloth accordingly - not every owner wants to throw away good money after bad like they've done at Saints.

I actually don't like the man, but I don't fault him for wanting to reduce running costs considering the current climate Wigan Warriors operates in.

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