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| Not admonishing anyone from any blame here, as it’s completely indefensible, but does anyone know what caused all this in the first place?
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| I would say that the cause was too much alcohol and a lack of responsibility and standards
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| Quote big grimmo="big grimmo"I would say that the cause was too much alcohol and a lack of responsibility and standards'"
Without a shadow of a doubt. Just wondered if anyone on here had heard of/knew if something was done/said to kick all this off
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| Joel has to go Im afraid.
Nothing to stop the club supporting him post employment but we need to send a firm message out here.
I think Sam has been extremely lucky, no doubt in my mind that he was behaving just as stupidly prior to the filming.
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| The second video is worse in my opinion not sure that Joel can realistically expect to carry on at the club,yjr fact that he got in there first with the paper interview and that told you it was bad,didnt expect it to be that cringeworthy, best for all concerned if he leaves surely?
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| Quote YorkshireWarrior="YorkshireWarrior"Without a shadow of a doubt. Just wondered if anyone on here had heard of/knew if something was done/said to kick all this off'"
Barmaid refused to serve them as they were to drunk so after arguing Joel said he would serve himself and thats why he went behind the bar.
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| The 'Dailies' are now running with the second video.
I think this makes JT's position untenable. The club will be left with no option.
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| Quote newgroundb4wakey="newgroundb4wakey"Barmaid refused to serve them as they were to drunk so after arguing Joel said he would serve himself and thats why he went behind the bar.'"
Oh dear. I’m afraid that’s Joel out for me then.
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| The best thing for Joel is to get his head down and come back for 2019.
A note....we should keep a support of him. The depression that followed shame on his family and himself was too much for Terry Newton. I hope we as a community have learnt lessons.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"The best thing for Joel is to get his head down and come back for 2019.
A note....we should keep a support of him. The depression that followed shame on his family and himself was too much for Terry Newton. I hope we as a community have learnt lessons.'"
Sobering thought....
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"The best thing for Joel is to get his head down and come back for 2019.
A note....we should keep a support of him. The depression that followed shame on his family and himself was too much for Terry Newton. I hope we as a community have learnt lessons.'"
Despite giving heavy criticism and still believing he should be released; I’m in full agreement with your post.
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