Quote: Cherry.Pie "You say ask any Saints fan about Makinson v Davies but then say they'd be deluded. What I said in the original post was that Davies wasn't far off Makinson. Having seen Davies this year and last I don't see any reason to suggest he's far from being a top winger (which Makinson is). It's obviously down to opinion, but no way do I buy into that view. The problem Davies has is that he rarely gets to showcase the attacking side of his game because, as you mentioned, there's little space created for Davies. Still, when he's been given opportunities he's generally taken them.
With Manfredi I should have said he was the best English winger 'in Super League' at the time of his injury. That may have been partly to do with Hall not having the same form for Leeds as he shows pretty much every time, but that's not to take away from Manfredi's form. Given the post I replied to was about us not producing quality players compared to Saints I don't think there was anything wrong in my assessment of Manfredi except for missing off that qualifying statement.
As for Marshall, I don't think his positional play is that bad compared to other young wingers who could be considered to be at the same level. And that includes Grace, who isn't immune to the odd positional lapse and error. They both have drawbacks. Marshall is definitely more error prone, but I'd also say that Marshall is a little bit better at creating opportunities for the players around him. I'd also hazard a guess that, having worked hard to improve his defence, Marshall is a little bit better at making his tackles stick compared to Grace, who can be a bit weak in that department.'"
I actually agree with the meat of your post. Makinson is a better player, but I agree Davies has potential and younger. I read that you thought Manfredi was the best English winger, I disagree with that due to the points raised about Hall, but Manfredi wasn't a million miles away.
I do disagree re-Marshall. For his age, compare his to Tom Johnson, both 22. Johnson is considerably better in all aspects of his game. Or Charnley or Burgess when they were the same age.
Marshall is better at creating chances? In all honesty as a winger, I don't know what you're referring to. Making tackles stick? Again I don't see that at all.