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| this was three weeks ago sunday night in 15, after a christening at aspull civic.
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| Also... Zak Hardaker's contract will be absolutely packed with termination stipulations etc. He will be watching this situation very closely i am sure. This put's the club in an untenable position IMO.
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| No issue with Sam for me - Other than him being drunk, when he supposed to be a professional "athlete". He just seemed to be trying to get his gobshïte of a brother to leave (admittedly not trying very hard)
Joel is an absolute cockwomble and is lucky not to have had the police involved for going after the barmaid.
Not sure how old the video is, but if it was anything like recent (this year some time) and especially if it was after the season started, there should be a club suspension/fine imposed.
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| Quote tangerine="tangerine"this was three weeks ago sunday night in 15, after a christening at aspull civic.'"
If this is correct it puts the timing and sudden nature of Wane's resignation into context perhaps?
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| I wouldn't sack them at all.
The club must instigate an investigation.
If their contracts allow it I think they should both be suspended without pay until the investigation is concluded.
From there, disciplinary action as appropriate.
In this way they are still employed and registered at Wigan and no one else can sign them.
As has been said, they cannot represent the club until matters are concluded.
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| Can’t believe some suggesting Sam did nothing wrong. He fact he did nothing was wrong. It’s his brother for god sake - why isn’t he dragging him out the place? His lack of actions to prevent the disgusting tirade of abuse, is as bad as the abuse, for me.
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| Quote Azul="Azul"Can’t believe some suggesting Sam did nothing wrong. He fact he did nothing was wrong. It’s his brother for god sake - why isn’t he dragging him out the place? His lack of actions to prevent the disgusting tirade of abuse, is as bad as the abuse, for me.'"
I was gobby in a pub onetime, when i turned around my brother was stood there holding my coat, and gesturing towards the door...
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| Quote Azul="Azul"Can’t believe some suggesting Sam did nothing wrong. He fact he did nothing was wrong. It’s his brother for god sake - why isn’t he dragging him out the place? His lack of actions to prevent the disgusting tirade of abuse, is as bad as the abuse, for me.'"
While I don't agree that his lack of action makes it just as bad, it is still bad and he should be called out on it. He was clearly in the wrong initially when they both refused to leave. He was also the only person there in a position to step in and prevent his brother from acting in an intimidating and abusive manner and didn't. He really didn't try very hard to step in
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"While I don't agree that his lack of action makes it just as bad, it is still bad and he should be called out on it. He was clearly in the wrong initially when they both refused to leave. He was also the only person there in a position to step in and prevent his brother from acting in an intimidating and abusive manner and didn't. He really didn't try very hard to step in'"
Yes, I agree.
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| I think it must be from a while ago as Sam's beard is much shorter than today. The lady did point out to them that they were also on CCTV. She also came over as a brave lass for standing up to them.
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| She also said Sam you have gone quiet since I started filming, so by that token he was more than likely spewing out abuse too, the tomkins brothers have always been b*llends
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