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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Right ok...
Firstly I wouldn't classify my comments as a theory, they're an opinion. And of course, which is open for debate. Don't forget the context of my comments; which are that Bateman is worthy of the marquee (I think people aren't realistic about the marquee) and I do, in my opinion feel Bateman is better 'age for age' than Lockers.
You wanted facts? Don't forget Bateman was England academy captain in 2012 taking them onto a tour of Oz, in the same year he won the Albert Goldthorpe rookie of the year award. He's someone, in the same team as Lockers at this point named clubs player of the year 2 years running in 2015/16.
In the same space of time John has won a WCC, a SL title.
(By the way this kills me to compare anyone to Lockers who is my fav player at wigan)
In comparison by 24 Lockers has won... yes you've named it
Good post. So much so, in fact, that I won't argue except to say Bateman is playing in a winning team whereas Lockers wasn't and you only win medals as a team (hence the usual Ricky Bibey comments when medals get mentioned.) He won nothing before coming to a team already winning trophies.
That aside, I'll respect your opinion, even if I disagree with it, and say if he goes on to be as good as O'Loughlin, as you seem to think he will, then I hope it's with Wigan. Sadly I don't think it will be though.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I had a bet, Jukesy, with someone on the other forum around that time who was using this same line. I said watch how he goes with better players around him. He said it wouldn't matter as he simply wasn't good enough. He conceded after the test series.
I never did get that drink.
Wasn't me was it? memory isn't what it used to be
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| Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Wasn't me was it? memory isn't what it used to be'"
No mate. Wigan Watcher, if you remember him?
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| Quote: Phuzzy "No mate. Wigan Watcher, if you remember him?'" Thank god for that lol, He just stopped posting all of a sudden, very strange, he was a character
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| No worries from me. Personally I don't mind a good spirited back and forth. We all have opinions, and at times they differ, that's a good thing, it would make for a very boring dull forum if everyone just agreed all the time!
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| Quote: Jukesays "And who's bigger.
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If I had the option of choosing who to sign tomorrow, a 24 year old John Bateman our a 24 year old Sean o loughlin I'm afraid there'd only be one winner by a country mile.
Around 2007/08 when fans of other clubs were still ridiculing wigan for their last 4/5 years of abject failure he was by far and away the best loose forward in the game over here. Lockers got caught up a lot in that ridicule and criticism and although I do believe he did carry on improving at 24/25 he was still seen by many experts in the game as the best loose forward in Britain.
Selected for GB in 2004.
Don't forget he played in the win in Sydney for gb in 2006. Man of the series against New Zealand year after.
The fact wigan were in disarray in 05+06 and a year or so before and after that were more off field issues than reflections of him as a player or captain/leader.
I think the team around him and the club in general improving heeled him mature but he was always going to be one hell of a player.'"
He's a great player no doubt and imo better than Bateman, now and in the past. That's not to denigrate Bateman by the way, SOL was born with more natural talent, it's just the way it is.
Hope he carries on playing for as long as possible.
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