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This drop to the floor for a quick ptb was first tried by Bradford in their halcyon days. It was very successful.
So much so that it was deemed not appropriate and they brought in the "surrender" tackle and this nullifies any advantage as it gives the tacklers more time to get off the tackled player. This is why dropping to the floor as soon as contact is made doesn't get a quick ptb. Hamlin went into contact and continued with leg drive, he got better quick ptb and any number of penalties.

On Wigan TV Waney says he liked what Hamlin did, he also gave credit to Romain. I reckon both will be in the squad at Catalan but not at Leeds nor home to Cas.

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Quote: JonnyBroad "Does nobody else just think waney was playing it down a bit and not getting carried away???? Nobody in there right mind wouldnt want players to make more yards??? I might be wrong but lets be honest it wouldnt be the first time comments of this nature have come out, he once said matty smith was not going to saints when we knew all that he had signed a deal. Some people just look for negatives, them same people where probabl whinging after 20 minutes yesterday saying our attack’s not good enough ect... when in fact the first 20 destroyed hull kr’s fitness and patterns. Lets be positive, we have at least 25 genuine super league players available for this week. Saints played 16 out of fridays 17 yesterday, that tells me they have not got much behind there 17. I wouldnt swap our squad for anyones.'"

Jonny I agree with the majority of your post particularly about the Saints squad. I would have liked Woods to have got more of the ball and take the line on a bit more but Im sure that will come with more experience and growing confidence.
I must admit I played the Radio Manchester interview a couple of times and SW seemed to be saying that he didn't want Hamlin to be playing like he did yesterday which if correct is particularly disappointing. I wish Clubb & TT could play like Hamlin. Hopefully you are right and SW was just trying to play down Hamlin's debut to keep his feet on the floor.
A reasonable start to the season and the next 4 games I think will tell us more about our potential to be in the hunt for trophies.

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Watched the game again on Wigan TV. All four prop forwards showed great 'leg drive' at times during the match.

I also noticed some other comments from Wane saying he was pleased that all the forwards 'ran hard'.

Really find it a head scratcher. Must be a terminology thing. If you dont run with good leg drive the odds are you'll get pushed back rather than hit the floor. If you do then not only do you make more metres but surely you have a better chance of hitting the floor on the front foot.

Feel like Im typing a book of rugby league for dummies but obviously Shaun Wane has far more RL knowledge than me. Just difficult to get your head round.

On a side note I thought Ganson played very well for us - looks a talented and smart hooker.

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In the Post tonight Wane's praising him again, his only complaint is about him going down winded with no-one near him.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Agree on Ganson, need to get him a lot of game time this year. Can establish starting 17 spot for next year IMO.

For me the bottom 5 sides are really struggling to compete with the top 4.

Salford, Catalans, KR, Widnes and Huddersfield are games we should be blooding, Ganson, Woods, Field etc

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Ganson for me is a superb player and ought to be playing in most of, if not every game.

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