Bullied every week? The only games I'd say they really came off second best so far have been against Warrington and St Helens. Even against St Helens it was pretty back and forth stuff

Hamlin won at least 4 penalty’s after his excellent drives today because of his desire to play the ball so quickly after that so I’m not sure what wane is getting at here, we can still gain momentum if our props drive the ball in hard. What an utterly unbelievable statement, no wonder our props look crap most of the time if that’s what he is telling them to do. Best prop performance at Wigan I have seen for a long time from young gabe.

No please no. I believe April Fools was yesterday and as a bloke who’s backed Wane more often then not, that type of comment will make it difficult. I find it pretty disrespectful towards the fans the tbh. I’ve been watching the game for 30 years and people will have enjoyed his performance today who’ve watched the game from before Wane was born and that is utter sh*te what he’s come out with.

I’m pretty bewildered by that.

Physically hurt reading that opening post.

Not just me then. I’m not kidding, my chest has actually tightened in pure rage at that.

He was attacking defenders, winning penalties and must’ve been responsible for well in excess of 250m when you consider the ground from the pens and his own carries.

It’s pathetic!

SW on Gabe Hamlin who debuted :

He was very Good, I thought he carried the ball really strong and was really composed. It didn't look like his first game"

I'm not sure why people get so worked up when quotes are taken in isolation without the full context.

Numerous times this year people have put snippets of quotes from wane on here and he's either a/ not said them at all or b/ they don't look as strange when looked at within the full interview.

The full interview. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0632wky

The full interview. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0632wky

Two different interviews, the one about leg drive was from BBC Radio Manchester. It’s genuinely worrying that he doesn’t want leg drive after contact, there’s a reason NRL put so much emphasis on metres after contact and it sounds like Wane wants to coach it out of him.

I’m a big fan of Wane but feel like someone’s needs to give him a big shake on this one.

Keep forgetting we all know more than him.

So it's drive it in, accept the tackle and drop to the floor for quick play the ball? If I still played the game and I was told that I'd be quite devastated. The game really is becoming a chess match that's played more off the pitch than on it with preset tactics and set plays. This isn't a Wane whinge, this is a whinge about the game in general as I'm sure most clubs will do similar. It's no wonder we don't want any big forwards, the yards are made before the collision as the players are told to basically surrender and look for quick play the balls or a penalty, light quicker forwards make more yards before the collision.