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Last season people's expectations of Escare where very low and everyone was pleasantly surprised by his form. Some posters even suggesting that he deserved a place ahead of Sam Tomkins (which was ludicrous). This year things are different.

Expectations are now quite high for Morgan. My gut feeling is that his form in the Catalans game was more like his normal game. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I don't think he's good enough for the first 13/17.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Labrokes judt releases their odds and he’s 33/1!

I’m definitely sticking a tenner on at that price.'"

Just put tenner on Farrell at 66/1 at William Hills and a tenner on Sam Tomkins at 20/1. Just got a feeling that Farrell will have a great season

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Quote: Jukesays "I know, I mean I'm not sure now if it's the coach who's no good, the chairman who's rubbish, the backroom staff or the players or all of them.

I mean it's obviously so very easy to do all of these things I'm not sure why Every team isn't winning every trophy every year?'"

I'm not defending Dave O as he I'm sure big and ugly enough to do that himself but performances have been declining since 2013 on and off the pitch.
I am not anti SW in anyway and I'm in the camp of thinking he needed help to freshen ideas up. I am firmly entrenched that it is the players that win or lose games not coaches. Coaches can and do assist in improving teams and players but ultimately it is the players that deliver results and trophies.
Having the highest payroll and allegedly the "deepest" squad must also be considered when evaluating measurement of success but I also accept that money doesn't guarantee success.
This season for me could be anything. No new coaches and very little change to the squad could mean a repeat of last season or hopefully the club as a whole has taken on board how bad it performed last season and it is determined to turn it around. I'm hoping for a much better attitude and hopefully some rugby instead of the dross that has been churned in recent seasons. I for one would be ecstatic if SW can help turn things around this season

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If we can’t judge Wane on trophies won then I’d like to judge him on how he’s kept us in the mix for them whilst losing Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, George Carmont, Pat Richards, Josh Charnley, Brett Finch, Blake Green, Lee Mossop, Dan Sarginson, Dom Manfredi (to a two year injury)and so on whilst mainly replacing them from the academy with kids like Burgess, Davies, Marshall, Gildart, Williams, Sutton, Powell, Wells etc.

I’m not one for sitting here saying he’s perfect or denying some things he does frustrates me but he’ll leave a legacy at this club whenever his time is up.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "That just doesn’t make sense to me whatsoever. What about when Tommy comes back on? Powell back to 7, S Tomkins back to FB and Escare off again? Then the same rigmarole when Tommy goes back off again?

Constantly changing our halves is a p*ss poor tactic and gives us absolutely no continuity whatsoever.'"




Wigan v Leigh have lined up as I expected. Started with ST at full back with Williams and Powell at 6 & 7 and Leuluai at 9.
Leuluai went off and Powell moved to 9 with ST going into the halves and Escare on from the bench.

I was seriously shot down for suggesting this last week but it’s gone well so far. Sam looks very sharp!

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Yes, but it's one thing to change full-backs in a pre-season friendly; it's quite another to suggest that would be a feasible tactic week in week out in SL.

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