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Quote: hatty "He was garbage and still is garbage, we couldn't wait to off load him when the NRL came sniffing around and the supporters were glad to see him go. If you call putting a kick through for the winger to score as lighting up a grand final then yes lets credit him for that however his constant errors and total lack of creativity in games throughout his tenure with Wigan would indicate that one swallow definitely doesn't make a summer.
There has been some garbage playing for England over the years, why do you think we are only 3rd ranked in the world.'"



His Grand Final wasn’t just one kick to the corner though was it? He was sensational that night in all aspects of his play.

Let’s not judge him on one good game though. He has some limitations of course but he also has a lot of strengths. I can’t think off too many realistic options who we could bring in that could cover fullback, wing, centre and stand off as well as Sarginson could.

Does he fill me with excitement as a first choice centre? Probably not but as a utility option, I think it’s a cracking piece of business.

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I wouldnt worry what position he plays, we all know he will be doing the work of 4 props every game. FPN should donate 90% of his salary to Dan before the season even starts.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "I wouldnt worry what position he plays, we all know he will be doing the work of 4 props every game. FPN should donate 90% of his salary to Dan before the season even starts.'"


Can’t fault that side of his game,if he can cut the drops out of his game he would be a decent player imo. He’s still relatively young so should/could improve.
The main issue with him imo is that he is a returning player and we’ve been burnt numerous times over the last few seasons and the fans are crying out for new faces.

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Quote: CobraCraig "Can’t fault that side of his game,if he can cut the drops out of his game he would be a decent player imo. He’s still relatively young so should/could improve.
The main issue with him imo is that he is a returning player and we’ve been burnt numerous times over the last few seasons and the fans are crying out for new faces.'"



It’s not just the fans who want new faces, the squad needs them imo. I have nothing in principle about signing players who have left providing they are why the squad needs at the time however I do think that a new face in the team can freshen things up and give everyone a lift.

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It's funny how when the squad was regularly overhauled and we hadn't won anything for a while, fans would yearn for a time when there was stability in the playing and coaching staff. We've had one bad season in ten years. We've also had horrific injury problems to overcome in the last two, which we did in 2016 but not really last year.

Save your judgement until we've had a decent run of luck with injuries. Maybe the fact that certain players are having their first proper preseason of their entire careers may help, who knows.

Okay, we have no big name signings to look forward to watching, but if we can get close to a fit first team on the pitch we will be fine. The squads of Hull and Castleford have hardly been tested yet. It would be interesting to see if they could cope as we have. We won in 2016 and came sixth last year. Leeds and Wire were bottom four with similar problems.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "It's funny how when the squad was regularly overhauled and we hadn't won anything for a while, fans would yearn for a time when there was stability in the playing and coaching staff. We've had one bad season in ten years. We've also had horrific injury problems to overcome in the last two, which we did in 2016 but not really last year.

Save your judgement until we've had a decent run of luck with injuries. Maybe the fact that certain players are having their first proper preseason of their entire careers may help, who knows.

Okay, we have no big name signings to look forward to watching, but if we can get close to a fit first team on the pitch we will be fine. The squads of Hull and Castleford have hardly been tested yet. It would be interesting to see if they could cope as we have. We won in 2016 and came sixth last year. Leeds and Wire were bottom four with similar problems.

Glass half full friends!
There's stability and there is a squad that is going a little stale,all the best sports squads are turned over regular intervals and to the point of teams being broken up altogether and starting again.

Where Wigan are I suppose is down to your own point of view.

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