I'm with you. Anyone saying he is garbage needs to give their head a wobble.

For some folk you are either good or garbage, no in between. Still that's the internet I suppose. Extremes of thought masquerade as opinion.

I don't think either of us are saying he is the next Eric Ashton or Dean Bell, but for heavens sake no way is he 'garbage', just an above average pro who will put a shift in for the cause.

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Not bad for someone who can't pass or tackle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6laWP1hfuFc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJGcfiNXhU Someone else has said that he's injury prone, I don't recall him missing that many games for Wigan although I must admit the shoulder injury is a big concern. What's someone signing a fullback got to do with Wigan signing a centre. Castleford have signed Corey Ashton and Jamie Ellis!! Also Catalan have released half their team so had plenty salary cap space available.'" If you are on about the PNG captain who's signing I pointed out he can play across the back line and unless you know what he is being paid, which you don't, it does not follow they have released players just to sign him. They fact were poor last season has probably got far more to do with it. The fact you think we have signed a centre anyway brought a smile to my face. As to two clips on YouTube, a stopped clock is right twice a day. There isn't enough bandwidth to show all the mistakes.

Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Not bad for someone who can't pass or tackle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6laWP1hfuFc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJGcfiNXhU Someone else has said that he's injury prone, I don't recall him missing that many games for Wigan although I must admit the shoulder injury is a big concern. What's someone signing a fullback got to do with Wigan signing a centre. Castleford have signed Corey Ashton and Jamie Ellis!! Also Catalan have released half their team so had plenty salary cap space available.'" If you are on about the PNG captain who's signing I pointed out he can play across the back line and unless you know what he is being paid, which you don't, it does not follow they have released players just to sign him. They fact were poor last season has probably got far more to do with it. The fact you think we have signed a centre anyway brought a smile to my face. As to two clips on YouTube, a stopped clock is right twice a day. There isn't enough bandwidth to show all the mistakes.

Did his subsequent performances not give you any hints? He had a blinder against Australia

Blimey. The Scrooge wannabes are out in force already & it's still 2 weeks to gluttony. Let alone 2 months to the season start. If this time next year we're looking forward to playing Barrow & Whitehaven then I'll concede being a happy-clapper isn't all it's made out to be, but FFS you lot, lighten up.

Do the more numerous poor performances he served up for Wigan not give you any hints? Or are we about to start rewriting history?

DaveO I honestly think you would moan if we signed jesus, citing him having 3 days off with injury

Though we do have a bad track record with signing injured players that doesn't mean new wigan policy should be to sign only new players with no bruises.

There may be a few clubs in SL with a better centre than Gells or Sarge but not many. I don't think there is a SL club with 3 centre options better than gilly, gells and sarge. The whole of the Wigan club owes a big season to the fans for sticking with them through the past 2 years. We also owe them some patience considering previous success in spite of ridiculous runs of bad luck with regards to injuries, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that they really do but their bodies on the line, especially considering how many must have gone beyond usually pain barriers due to the people we were missing.

Wigan may have played a safe option here, if Gells is 50/50 and then sarge signs elsewhere then we are left with 1 starting centre and a prospect. If the past 2 years have taught us anything is the importance of strength in depth. There may be many squads who can match us 13v13 but I don't think anybody can match us for a full squad.

I'm ok with wigan playing it safe with signings so long as we see something more on the pitch.

he is terrible

Which particular ones do you recall?
Didn't Sarginson replace Mead at the Titans?

His Grand Final wasn’t just one kick to the corner though was it? He was sensational that night in all aspects of his play.

Let’s not judge him on one good game though. He has some limitations of course but he also has a lot of strengths. I can’t think off too many realistic options who we could bring in that could cover fullback, wing, centre and stand off as well as Sarginson could.

Does he fill me with excitement as a first choice centre? Probably not but as a utility option, I think it’s a cracking piece of business.

He was playing the centre role to perfection at that point. He’d got that frustrating step back in to the defence and away from his winger out of his game and he’d developed a cracking flick pass. After that season though he was shifted around a little and again developed those bad habits. He’s best at fullback for me but I’ve always fancied him more as a right centre (which is where you’d guess he’ll play going forward) because that natural step to his right will bring his winger in to play more often over on that side.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Gelling going forward. If he goes then clearly Sarginson has been signed to replace him.

If he has been signed on similar terms as he was on in 2014, and if no fee has been paid for his services then it will be a reasonable bit of business.

If Tony Gelling leaves, it should be in exchange for a transfer fee.