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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I can't see Heighington or Brown getting any game time in that squad. I think it'll be the kick up the 'arris that Sam, Faz and Joe Burgess probably needed. Surprised to see Lomax in there as he did nothing last season and lost his place to Barba. Happy for Ratchford though as he is a talent. Pleased for Roby as it must have been galling to see McShane's name put forward by Sky every game this season, though not mentioned on Saturday strangely.

All in all though I don't think anyone can feel hard done by though I think Danny Houghton is unlucky to be playing when we actually have decent hookers around.'"


Good to see your Wigan myopia is as strong as ever. Lomax missed a good chunk of the season through injury but played really well on his return at FB. He was always going to lose out to Barba at 1 but is fully deserving of a place in the squad on merit IMO. There are others such as Brown, Heighington and Currie (injury) who are far more questionable.

For the record, I would have taken Tomkins and Farrell.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Shenton has done well at Cas but failed at a bigger club when he wasn't able to produce his best form. He is like a lot of the Cas players I'm afraid, not someone I would want to trust on the big occasion. On the other hand it was Ratchford's injury that helped turn the 2013 GF our way. A player with more natural talent than most, and certainly better than Shenton.

If Wigan get rid of Gelling who would you prefer? Shenton or Ratchford?'"


One of the worse posts I've read in a while. Shenton shouldn't be picked to play for England in 2017, after excellent 2017 because of a lesser spell at Saints in 2011-12.

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I posted on Facebook last night, people bagging Tomkins and saying he's been poor since he came back should look at Ratchfords stats. He scored one try all season before the split for them to play in the middle 8's and finished with 5 overall, after playing against London, Fev, Halifax etc. I've always thought of him as a player who is vastly overrated tbh. He's one of those players who looks good, decent footwork, decent hands, decent pace etc but ultimately we're still waiting for that season which makes you go 'yeah Ratchford has kicked on and is now a top level player'.

Decent super league player but it's worrying that we're going to a World Cup with it looking like he's our first choice fullback.

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Exactly. As disappointing as ST has been he's still superior to Ratchford.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "Exactly. As disappointing as ST has been he's still superior to Ratchford.'"

I think Ratchford is in there as a utility though, easier to stick him at centre or on the wing than it is with S.Tomkins

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Quote: Grimmy "I think Ratchford is in there as a utility though, easier to stick him at centre or on the wing than it is with S.Tomkins'"


I wouldn't want Ratchford in either of those positions against the big teams though TBH, would prefer a back row like Bateman or Currie filling in. Really, it should have been Tomkins in for Brown as he can cover the halves as well as FB and Makinson over Ratchford but i guess we will have to trust Bennett's judgement now.

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