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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: Aboveusonlypie "I know what you mean and I remember that Salford game. But I have to admit to being impressed with Bateman's discipline this season, when actually the discipline of everyone else seems to have suffered. Since the 'ban' he has controlled himself very well and I would have have no hesitation playing him for England. For his size he does seem to have freakish strength so the point about him being small, whilst being a fair point when talking about others, doesn't seem to apply to him IMO.

I agree with your choice. Ferres has never let England down and I have no problem with him being picked. I also think Burgess will play second row. We have Graham, Walmsley, Hill, Taylor and Watts for the front row and that is without the Burgess brothers who I think may be picked by the coach, but are inferior to those I've named.'"

I've hardly managed to watch any NRL this year - were the Burgess brothers so bad? Adding three debutants at prop when we have those two to call upon is a big call. Agree about having Taylor in though, he should have been in last time as well.

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Quote: Grimmy " and Ferres on the bench'"
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Ferres won't get in the squad since he's been awful all year.

I like Bateman but he's too small for Test rugby. Second row will be O'Loughlin and Whitehead with Sam Burgess at 13.

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Quote: Bullseye "Ferres won't get in the squad since he's been awful all year.

I like Bateman but he's too small for Test rugby. Second row will be O'Loughlin and Whitehead with Sam Burgess at 13.'"


It's just a silly statement. Not you personally but the general consensus of it. He is as tough as anyone in the squad if not the toughest and a size vs strength test would have him out on top every time. As a defender and charging second rower, i would have him over Farrell and Ferres any day of the week. I concede that Farrell is much better at running the lines and finding gaps but Bateman's work rate puts him in every day of the week for me. There aren't many players who keep fighting for the full 80 mins at the same intensity as the 1st minute. Him and Lockers are as mentioned, the only two for me that should be in the squad. McMeeken is a shoe in (or should be) Then again i said Walmsley and Hill should have been there last time but weren't. Now i want, Walmsley, Taylor and Watts and will probably get none.

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Quote: Cherry_Warrior "It's just a silly statement. Not you personally but the general consensus of it. He is as tough as anyone in the squad if not the toughest and a size vs strength test would have him out on top every time. As a defender and charging second rower, i would have him over Farrell and Ferres any day of the week. I concede that Farrell is much better at running the lines and finding gaps but Bateman's work rate puts him in every day of the week for me. There aren't many players who keep fighting for the full 80 mins at the same intensity as the 1st minute. Him and Lockers are as mentioned, the only two for me that should be in the squad. McMeeken is a shoe in (or should be) Then again i said Walmsley and Hill should have been there last time but weren't. Now i want, Walmsley, Taylor and Watts and will probably get none.'"


I think it depends on the player. John was at our club last night while his brother was training and for me has to be on the pitch. His mentality gives him an edge for me, I saw a post saying the Kiwis had his number but that was his first game against that stature of size. In the game against Australia after he was very good and had learned fromt he NZ game and equipped himself a lot better. Also to be surrounded by the size of SOL, Sam, Graham and Whitehead the pack is strong. We need a John type in there as Westwood was for us to dish some out

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Quote: Bullseye "Ferres won't get in the squad since he's been awful all year.

I like Bateman but he's too small for Test rugby. Second row will be O'Loughlin and Whitehead with Sam Burgess at 13.'"


Personally I'd have Sam in the SR and SOL at lock. SOL is a better organised and has better hands and somewhat of a kicking game. Can be used as an extra pivot. Sam running slightly wider I think would be a better option. McMeekan and Burgess linking those edges gives us a lot of size and power.

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