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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "It would be a hard hearted person who would deny Wane the chance to put right what he has delivered this season. His record gives him enough credit in the bank to be given that chance.

But another repeat of this season will mean that it's a last chance saloon.

However it should be the last chance for many of the players. Bringing back Joel and Sam Tomkins has been a disaster. It has been difficult watching Sam, hoping against hope that what you are seeing in front of you just isn't so. He is clearly finished. Not the worst full back in the league by any stretch but miles away from when he was peerless. His status as marquee player just cannot be justified. Joel's knees are knackered. He is finished. Very sad also, but again a very highly paid player we cannot justify any longer.

Just what is Micky Mac for any longer? Capable only of winding the opposition up, and not very good at that either. I want a hooker like Danny Houghton, able to play the whole game who tackles forever and is a decent runner and passer.

The props need supplementing. Sutton just hasn't come on. FPN has been steady nothing more. A far cry from Walmsley and Hill for example.

Tommy has been a disaster. Absolutely useless with ball in hand and worse at kicking.

So all of those high earners need replacing in my view.

We still have the best back row and Lockers must play on for at least another year, simply irreplaceable. After that I'd say every single player's reputation has suffered. Joe Burgess has been poor, although playing him at centre was just unfair on the lad. Gelling has been inconsistent. Gildart did well to return from a horrific injury, but he was average, no better.

Lastly Williams. Hasn't justified his wages IMO. However there are mitigating circumstances. He got no help from his scrum half. At times he was our only attacking threat. And the pressure told in the end.

So all in all, lots for Wane to do. I'd say we need a new full back, we need Manfredi back, we need a scrum half, we need two new props and a hooker.

Time for Mr Lenegan to splash the cash instead of looking at ridiculous jaunts to Australia, get back to basics, build a new team that can play exciting rugby. I have my doubts whether Waney can deliver too, but I think it would be wrong to replace him now. As I said give him the chance to put it right.'"


The question will be is where are Wigan going to get the money from in order to get those players you say are needed? Surely you must be there or thereabouts with regards to the salary cap, and without paying off the players you say are finished (unless their contracts are up) you aren't going to get any money in for them as far as a transfer fee, so where is the money coming from?

No NRL player(s) at the peak of their game is going to come over to the UK because they can earn far more staying in Oz, and lets be honest, there are no English world class players any more to take from this country, we just aren't producing them.

I'd say most clubs in the league would want to get rid of the deadwood in their ranks, but limited talent and spending money just don't allow it to be done - hence the poor quality in most teams this year.

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Quote: The Whiffy Kipper "Willie Peters new attack coach'"


That is a good shout, highly unlikely but the kind of appointment we need

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Quote: moto748 "Hostility yes, I wouldn't disagree, although I've never felt unsafe or anything like that. But if I remember right, wasn't there an incident last season (?) with a female Wigan fan getting injured there?

Personally that wouldn't make me want to back Leeds, though. There was an incident, as you say, a female fan I think had her nose broken. Just horrible people. I enjoyed the game Saturday, especially as I had the courage of my convictions and had a hefty wager at 6/4 as soon as I saw Zak was out. icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "There was an incident, as you say, a female fan I think had her nose broken. Just horrible people. '"


They've always reminded me of Leigh. Small club in a small ground with a real small town mentality ... sometimes punching impressively above their weight, but even then letting themselves down with a juvenile chip-on-the-shoulder attitude that is beyond pathetic. The only two grounds I've ever been to where stones were thrown at the visiting coaches on the way home.

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Quote: Cruncher "They've always reminded me of Leigh. Small club in a small ground with a real small town mentality ... sometimes punching impressively above their weight, but even then letting themselves down with a juvenile chip-on-the-shoulder attitude that is beyond pathetic. The only two grounds I've ever been to where stones were thrown at the visiting coaches on the way home.'"

Spot on. It annoys me the way Sky go on about the 'wonderful atmosphere' without ever recognising what a pit it is (they do have the best catering though!!!). The dogs abuse that Sam Tomkins gets there is worse even than at Leeds, you wouldn't mind but Sam has never been in trouble of any kind, his worst sins being milking penalties and chatting to refs, on the other hand....

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