Does anyone at the club understand league tables as it was clear to me way back that it would take a hell of an effort (15 points from our last 11 games looks like not being enough) to reach the top 4. Was it pure arrogance that we would eventually go on a winning run? Either way the Cronulla match was great, Wembley wasn't that difficult to get to and was a missed opportunity and not reaching the playoffs is a failure.

THE SALARY CAP HAS RUINED THE GAME

I bet he ends up at Warrington and we continue with Waney

Well it might have this year for Wigan.
But next year you'll have as much chance as the other 11, though much more now depends on quality coaching, if you go stale there, like with Smithy, then any club can struggle. But Waney not bad, very predictable, but not bad. Every club has had to adapt to the new even playing field.
Best to just accept it like everyone else and get on with it. There's no gimmes anymore. Isn't that a good thing ??

Seriously ... ignore that chap.

He's our resident daftie.

No one at Wigan, on the terraces or in the club, is blaming the salary cap for our current problems. If anything, we're making better use of it than many others, having two marquee players (even if neither of them is demonstrating anything like marquee form - though that's another story altogether).

But no, he often comes on here shouting odd things - and is not to be taken seriously.

Ok cheers.

If that statement is directly from SW, then its the cry of a dead man walking. Should Hull lose at Cas then he needs 3 wins out of 3 to have a sniff of saving his job. Even winning the GF may not be enough, as the pundits and media would almost airbrush it out of the history books in favour of Cas who "won the league".

We need a major overhaul in the close season - I don't want to be watching another season of wrestling next season.

I've just watched his interview on Wigan tv and that's not what he said!
He said that at the beginning of the year had he been offered the WCC a Wembley final place and a chance of being in the Superleague semi-finals then he would "probably" have taken it.
He also said that there were no excuses and the buck stops with him.

Well I hope lenegan takes action on that last sentence and sacks him when the seasons over

I'm not Wane's biggest fan, but I'd give him another season unless there is another very good option on the table (by which I mean someone who is proven like Maguire or Powell, not a promising NRL assistant). We won the Grand Final in 2016, won the World Club Challenge this year, and were a forward pass off winning the Challenge Cup Final this year, realistically that isn't a bad return given the injuries we have had. I do think we need to freshen up the coaching staff though. The three best teams right now (Cas, Leeds and Hull) all look much bigger and stronger than us, so we either need to fix that, or play a style of rugby which overcomes our size/strength disadvantage.

Quote jonh="jonh"I've not seen the quote so unsure where it is from however if confirmed it did come from Wane and within the club it follows a long line of very negative and poor messages from within the club this year. Not making the play offs is a failure he can dress it up all he wants but we as a club have massively undercheived in relation to performance this year. It's yet another example of the arrogance that seems to emminate from within the club towards the fans at a time when after a season to forget and season ticket sales crucial after losing £60k last season they would be going out of their way to court the fans not tell us we should be lucky at what we have done this year. Des Hasler just become available....just saying.'" Not sure that Des is the answer reading this https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... s-failings

Quote jonh="jonh"I've not seen the quote so unsure where it is from however if confirmed it did come from Wane and within the club it follows a long line of very negative and poor messages from within the club this year. Not making the play offs is a failure he can dress it up all he wants but we as a club have massively undercheived in relation to performance this year. It's yet another example of the arrogance that seems to emminate from within the club towards the fans at a time when after a season to forget and season ticket sales crucial after losing £60k last season they would be going out of their way to court the fans not tell us we should be lucky at what we have done this year. Des Hasler just become available....just saying.'" Not sure that Des is the answer reading this https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... s-failings